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	<title>Comments on: Point: Libraries Should Be Run Like Businesses</title>
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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyrone, this is why Government models works so well with libraries.  These jobs inherently have no direct revenue shources; the patrons who wuse the library do not necessarily pay for the library; indeed, a good 25% of Americans DO NOT pay Income tax AT ALL - but file returns.
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The Business model allows us to pay exhorbinant salries to people to sit in jobs that are &quot;critical&quot; or &quot;important&quot; but otherwise &quot;unfundable&quot; under a busniess model.
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Further, if our libraries did move to a business model wheere the librarians hound down contiributions from large members of the population, you get something similar to waht happens when Congress is paid for by lobbyists.  That is, the organization must then pander directly to that organization&#039;s beliefes.  Those beiliefs could include what materials MUST be int eh library and those materials that MUST NOT be int he library.  The latter case is particularly a problem becasue it is a violation of the freedom of information and expression rights so granted in this country and expanded by the ALA.  
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For this reason we have to use a Government Model: we each understand that regardless of who we are, a percentage of out income tax goes TO The library and may be used for anything everyone in the community desires with few holds barred.  We still have not go to that point in this country, given how many complaints we get about certain materials that are in our libraries nand how many flags of &quot;You MUST REMOVES [CENSOR} this from the collection&quot;  but it is coming!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyrone, this is why Government models works so well with libraries.  These jobs inherently have no direct revenue shources; the patrons who wuse the library do not necessarily pay for the library; indeed, a good 25% of Americans DO NOT pay Income tax AT ALL &#8211; but file returns.</p>
<p>The Business model allows us to pay exhorbinant salries to people to sit in jobs that are &#8220;critical&#8221; or &#8220;important&#8221; but otherwise &#8220;unfundable&#8221; under a busniess model.</p>
<p>Further, if our libraries did move to a business model wheere the librarians hound down contiributions from large members of the population, you get something similar to waht happens when Congress is paid for by lobbyists.  That is, the organization must then pander directly to that organization&#8217;s beliefes.  Those beiliefs could include what materials MUST be int eh library and those materials that MUST NOT be int he library.  The latter case is particularly a problem becasue it is a violation of the freedom of information and expression rights so granted in this country and expanded by the ALA.  </p>
<p>For this reason we have to use a Government Model: we each understand that regardless of who we are, a percentage of out income tax goes TO The library and may be used for anything everyone in the community desires with few holds barred.  We still have not go to that point in this country, given how many complaints we get about certain materials that are in our libraries nand how many flags of &#8220;You MUST REMOVES [CENSOR} this from the collection&#8221;  but it is coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone from Detroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyrone from Detroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will say that most State libraries, especially prison libraries, should be privatized. In Michigan, the prison library technicians (Unionized) earn close to $50,000 a year. Many of these “technicians” are useless in every respect. They should earn $12 an hour with so-so benefits. Why should a union “technician” be entitled to earn more than an academic librarian with an MLIS?

Run certain libraries like a business and nothing more. 

Money makes the world go round…..think I’m full of shiat? You go and work your reference desk job for NO money for a few says and see how you like it. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say that most State libraries, especially prison libraries, should be privatized. In Michigan, the prison library technicians (Unionized) earn close to $50,000 a year. Many of these “technicians” are useless in every respect. They should earn $12 an hour with so-so benefits. Why should a union “technician” be entitled to earn more than an academic librarian with an MLIS?</p>
<p>Run certain libraries like a business and nothing more. </p>
<p>Money makes the world go round…..think I’m full of shiat? You go and work your reference desk job for NO money for a few says and see how you like it. </p>
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		<title>By: soren faust</title>
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		<dc:creator>soren faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Soren, I&#039;m a female in a male dominated company. My opinion doesn&#039;t count.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;annoyed more often than not, I&#039;m afraid my Imposter wrote this comment, hence my attempt to rewind it by writing it backwards in the next comment. I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s a badge of honor to have an Imposter or a drag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Soren, I&#8217;m a female in a male dominated company. My opinion doesn&#8217;t count.</em></p>
<p>annoyed more often than not, I&#8217;m afraid my Imposter wrote this comment, hence my attempt to rewind it by writing it backwards in the next comment. I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s a badge of honor to have an Imposter or a drag.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and after we have our three martini lunch - gin very vodka, shaken not stirred, can we get Mr Ford or Mr GM to loan us their company jets so we can get to the ALA Washington office a whole lot faster to prepare our bail out business case?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and after we have our three martini lunch &#8211; gin very vodka, shaken not stirred, can we get Mr Ford or Mr GM to loan us their company jets so we can get to the ALA Washington office a whole lot faster to prepare our bail out business case?</p>
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		<title>By: annoyed more often then not</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoyed more often then not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Soren,
I&#039;m a female in a male dominated company. My opinion doesn&#039;t count.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soren,<br />
I&#8217;m a female in a male dominated company. My opinion doesn&#8217;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: Mithrandir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mithrandir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before reading these comments i had hoped i would find some good ideas about libraries.  Alas, all i found were either long-winded, ego-driven diatribes or silly attempts at humor.

Come on you people can do better than this]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before reading these comments i had hoped i would find some good ideas about libraries.  Alas, all i found were either long-winded, ego-driven diatribes or silly attempts at humor.</p>
<p>Come on you people can do better than this</p>
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		<title>By: Annoyed is Annoying</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annoyed is Annoying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Making ignorant sweeping comments is a waste of reader&#039;s time. Libraries are indeed non-profit BUSINESSES.  No one dreamed GM could possibly go out of business--has any one considered the likelihood that a library could go out of business?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making ignorant sweeping comments is a waste of reader&#8217;s time. Libraries are indeed non-profit BUSINESSES.  No one dreamed GM could possibly go out of business&#8211;has any one considered the likelihood that a library could go out of business?</p>
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		<title>By: commons</title>
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		<dc:creator>commons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lydian?

Like many classes I&#039;ve taken, mostly women there, the conversations are often mostly dominated by the men. Go figure. Perhaps the commonly female workforce of libraries is, to use a business term, a selling point for the relief - the lack of the spartan nature of business at libraries, the more welcoming, public, union, commons, fair, ....Lydian...nature of pl&#039;s
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lydian?</p>
<p>Like many classes I&#8217;ve taken, mostly women there, the conversations are often mostly dominated by the men. Go figure. Perhaps the commonly female workforce of libraries is, to use a business term, a selling point for the relief &#8211; the lack of the spartan nature of business at libraries, the more welcoming, public, union, commons, fair, &#8230;.Lydian&#8230;nature of pl&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Library Cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Library Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is always a good one. I realize a lot of librarians have at-will employment right now, but plenty others have the protections of civil service contracts, unionization, tenure, etc. However, if we got rid of all those selfish employment protections, then libraries could just fire all of their librarians whenever they experienced a &quot;circulation downturn&quot; and then hire them back when the libraries were doing more business, probably as consultants so the librarians could do the exact same job as before, only at twice the pay with no benefits. That seems like a winning strategy.&quot;

Sounds familiar. AL, you SHOULD get out of the Ivory Tower and explore public libraries sometime. The are people with a HSD that have replaced folks with an MLS, working part time to save on benefits. Too many are at-will employees that have a masters. There are more jobs that suck than you&#039;d care to think about.    
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is always a good one. I realize a lot of librarians have at-will employment right now, but plenty others have the protections of civil service contracts, unionization, tenure, etc. However, if we got rid of all those selfish employment protections, then libraries could just fire all of their librarians whenever they experienced a &#8220;circulation downturn&#8221; and then hire them back when the libraries were doing more business, probably as consultants so the librarians could do the exact same job as before, only at twice the pay with no benefits. That seems like a winning strategy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds familiar. AL, you SHOULD get out of the Ivory Tower and explore public libraries sometime. The are people with a HSD that have replaced folks with an MLS, working part time to save on benefits. Too many are at-will employees that have a masters. There are more jobs that suck than you&#8217;d care to think about.    </p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AL already wrote about it once, but it would be a good re-run!  How about it??!  We wanna hear the &quot;Old Girls Club&quot; Theory!! [my imposter ahs not been with us long enough to know THAT one! ;) ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AL already wrote about it once, but it would be a good re-run!  How about it??!  We wanna hear the &#8220;Old Girls Club&#8221; Theory!! [my imposter ahs not been with us long enough to know THAT one! ;) ;)</p>
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