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	<title>Comments on: PhD: the New Job Requirement?</title>
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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Dr Evil Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Evil Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My experience on several librarian search committees at a large academic library has taught me that most of my colleagues are intimidated by applicants with PhDs and afraid to even consider hiring them. When discussing such applicants they typically end up accusing them in absentia of the mortal sin of credentialism. I find that very sad since librarians (especially academic ones) are supposed to be enthusiastic supporters of education and learning for its own sake. Seems to me, all other things being equal, a librarian with a PhD should be preferred to a librarian without one. Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience on several librarian search committees at a large academic library has taught me that most of my colleagues are intimidated by applicants with PhDs and afraid to even consider hiring them. When discussing such applicants they typically end up accusing them in absentia of the mortal sin of credentialism. I find that very sad since librarians (especially academic ones) are supposed to be enthusiastic supporters of education and learning for its own sake. Seems to me, all other things being equal, a librarian with a PhD should be preferred to a librarian without one. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: lburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with DrPepper. The Univ I work in doesn&#039;t require a second MA and I wish it would.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with DrPepper. The Univ I work in doesn&#8217;t require a second MA and I wish it would.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooh!
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I remembered a another Anecdote.
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Most of you may be familiar with grading on a curve that leads to grade inflation.  How many of you have been in classes where the professor Lowers grades on a curve??!!
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I have been in such classes particularly in the engineering field.  In otherwords, let us say there is an exam and the average score is a 91%.  The professor then makes 91% a C and redetermines the rest of the grades to fit into a stanard bell curve distribution.  
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So you look on your test and see &quot;89.5%&quot; and think &quot;Well, good, I&#039;m doing quite OK!&quot;.
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But then you see the board and is says something like this: 
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100-96 = A&lt;br&gt;
96-94 = B&lt;br&gt;
94-91 = C&lt;br&gt;
91-80 = D&lt;br&gt;
79-0 = E&lt;br&gt;
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I hated being in those classes especailly discovering that half the class is using the exams from the past five years to prepare for the exam because the professor never makes new problems [do each problem enough times and you can do it from memory; program each problem into your calculator as text and you can take it straight off the calculator!] and because everybody [THE AVERAGE] does so well on the exams, the professor thinks his lectures are really really hot stuff and thinks even that the students are really understanding the material.
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And becasue this professor is adament abotu fighitng &quot;grade inflation,&quot; he is purposely holding the class to a standard preset idea that every class taught right fits a predefined bellcurve average.
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Meanwhile, none of these conclusions really addresses the case.
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It&#039;s really quite frustrating!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh!</p>
<p>I remembered a another Anecdote.</p>
<p>Most of you may be familiar with grading on a curve that leads to grade inflation.  How many of you have been in classes where the professor Lowers grades on a curve??!!</p>
<p>I have been in such classes particularly in the engineering field.  In otherwords, let us say there is an exam and the average score is a 91%.  The professor then makes 91% a C and redetermines the rest of the grades to fit into a stanard bell curve distribution.  </p>
<p>So you look on your test and see &#8220;89.5%&#8221; and think &#8220;Well, good, I&#8217;m doing quite OK!&#8221;.</p>
<p>But then you see the board and is says something like this: </p>
<p>100-96 = A<br />
96-94 = B<br />
94-91 = C<br />
91-80 = D<br />
79-0 = E</p>
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I hated being in those classes especailly discovering that half the class is using the exams from the past five years to prepare for the exam because the professor never makes new problems [do each problem enough times and you can do it from memory; program each problem into your calculator as text and you can take it straight off the calculator!] and because everybody [THE AVERAGE] does so well on the exams, the professor thinks his lectures are really really hot stuff and thinks even that the students are really understanding the material.</p>
<p>And becasue this professor is adament abotu fighitng &#8220;grade inflation,&#8221; he is purposely holding the class to a standard preset idea that every class taught right fits a predefined bellcurve average.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, none of these conclusions really addresses the case.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really quite frustrating!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Techserving You, you;re right; we&#039;re arguing definitions - I think we best let it go.  But you nailed the meaning of &quot;Average,&quot; and in this case, it holds true - but only because the population is so large.
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Technolib, if they grade on a curve, the average is still ~70% but they are given handicap points; so when you grade on a curve, a whole lot more people think they&#039;re smarter when in truth they&#039;re still just as Dumb as the Average Brick or worse.
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Now if we have a populaiton of 250 million, then 125 million are between average and below average intelligence.  Unemployment is high, but it is not 125 million, and given the number of people who have said Library school was hard and earnestly meant it, I would suggest these people are indeed gainfully employed everywhere but most particularly in Libraries.  How else do we explain such low salaries and a reverancy for the job that suggests we would even PAY to work in this field since it is so good to us?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Techserving You, you;re right; we&#8217;re arguing definitions &#8211; I think we best let it go.  But you nailed the meaning of &#8220;Average,&#8221; and in this case, it holds true &#8211; but only because the population is so large.</p>
<p>Technolib, if they grade on a curve, the average is still ~70% but they are given handicap points; so when you grade on a curve, a whole lot more people think they&#8217;re smarter when in truth they&#8217;re still just as Dumb as the Average Brick or worse.</p>
<p>Now if we have a populaiton of 250 million, then 125 million are between average and below average intelligence.  Unemployment is high, but it is not 125 million, and given the number of people who have said Library school was hard and earnestly meant it, I would suggest these people are indeed gainfully employed everywhere but most particularly in Libraries.  How else do we explain such low salaries and a reverancy for the job that suggests we would even PAY to work in this field since it is so good to us?</p>
<p>This discussion has been too much fun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Technolib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technolib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens if they grade the IQ test on a curve? Does that mess up the mean and median.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens if they grade the IQ test on a curve? Does that mess up the mean and median.</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see what you mean, Mr. Kat, though I have to say that by DEFINITION, half the population is below the MEDIAN IQ, and half is above - by DEFINITION of median.  In a sufficiently large population, as you point out, the same should hold true for the mean.  But that is not by DEFINITION of mean, which is just something like &#039;the sum of a group of values divided by the total number of values.&#039;  (m-w.com defines arithmetic mean as &#039;a value that is computed by dividing the sum of a set of terms by the number of terms&#039;.)  Although now I&#039;m just arguing your wording and not whether the concept you&#039;re putting forth is true!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you mean, Mr. Kat, though I have to say that by DEFINITION, half the population is below the MEDIAN IQ, and half is above &#8211; by DEFINITION of median.  In a sufficiently large population, as you point out, the same should hold true for the mean.  But that is not by DEFINITION of mean, which is just something like &#8216;the sum of a group of values divided by the total number of values.&#8217;  (m-w.com defines arithmetic mean as &#8216;a value that is computed by dividing the sum of a set of terms by the number of terms&#8217;.)  Although now I&#8217;m just arguing your wording and not whether the concept you&#8217;re putting forth is true!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The population Must be significantly large regardless of whether the value is median OR Mean - otherwise the whole system breaks down.  Now in your case, the median is 150 - and only one person is below that number.  Again, our statement fails.
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The reason the definition works is because we are dealing with the population of the US, which is about 300 million.  The outliers on the low end are balanced out by the outliers on the high end.  Hence we are dealing with a standard distribution about a bell curve.
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Now if you spend some time with this you will find that the Median for such a dataset very near equals the Mean - your middle value very near approximates the Average.  But Our statement calls for the Average [By definition, half of the US population is below AVERAGE intelligence], so MEAN is the correct term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The population Must be significantly large regardless of whether the value is median OR Mean &#8211; otherwise the whole system breaks down.  Now in your case, the median is 150 &#8211; and only one person is below that number.  Again, our statement fails.</p>
<p>The reason the definition works is because we are dealing with the population of the US, which is about 300 million.  The outliers on the low end are balanced out by the outliers on the high end.  Hence we are dealing with a standard distribution about a bell curve.</p>
<p>Now if you spend some time with this you will find that the Median for such a dataset very near equals the Mean &#8211; your middle value very near approximates the Average.  But Our statement calls for the Average [By definition, half of the US population is below AVERAGE intelligence], so MEAN is the correct term.</p>
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		<title>By: Incognito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A librarian position at Texas AM for Digital Initiatives which just closed required a Ph.D.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A librarian position at Texas AM for Digital Initiatives which just closed required a Ph.D.</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh wait, Commonplaces is correct.  By definition half the population has an IQ below the median IQ, not the mean IQ.  I wasn&#039;t even thinking.  The mean can be skewed by a few outliers.  Take 5 people, 4 of whom have an IQ of 150, one of whom has an IQ of 50.  The average IQ is 130.  It was dragged down by that one person.  Half the people do not have an IQ below that, only one person does.  But the median is 150 (as is the mode) which is also not really indicative of the intelligence of the group.  One can assume that with a large enough &#039;n&#039;, there is random distribution of intelligence levels, and about half the people have IQs below the mean (average), though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait, Commonplaces is correct.  By definition half the population has an IQ below the median IQ, not the mean IQ.  I wasn&#8217;t even thinking.  The mean can be skewed by a few outliers.  Take 5 people, 4 of whom have an IQ of 150, one of whom has an IQ of 50.  The average IQ is 130.  It was dragged down by that one person.  Half the people do not have an IQ below that, only one person does.  But the median is 150 (as is the mode) which is also not really indicative of the intelligence of the group.  One can assume that with a large enough &#8216;n&#8217;, there is random distribution of intelligence levels, and about half the people have IQs below the mean (average), though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Commonplaces, I agree that a PhD could help with directorships. I have seen some ads saying it (or even an EdD) is preferred.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commonplaces, I agree that a PhD could help with directorships. I have seen some ads saying it (or even an EdD) is preferred.</p>
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