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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Radical Patron</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/09/02/all-about-the-bonus/comment-page-1/#comment-2746</link>
		<dc:creator>Radical Patron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 06:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, AL has addressed an important issue overlooked by many others.

I&#039;ve worked with hundreds of businesses since 1977 as an employee and consultant, and chuckle every time I see business held up as a model of innovation and efficiency.  As the previous commenter notes, organizational behavior is similar across sectors; people tend to glob on to a new idea and bureaucratize, over-professionalize and misapply it until a satirist like the AL or Dilbert holds a mirror up.

I do applaud libraries&#039; emerging willingness to take lessons from other sectors --- they just need to be a bit more selective about which practices they model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, AL has addressed an important issue overlooked by many others.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked with hundreds of businesses since 1977 as an employee and consultant, and chuckle every time I see business held up as a model of innovation and efficiency.  As the previous commenter notes, organizational behavior is similar across sectors; people tend to glob on to a new idea and bureaucratize, over-professionalize and misapply it until a satirist like the AL or Dilbert holds a mirror up.</p>
<p>I do applaud libraries&#8217; emerging willingness to take lessons from other sectors &#8212; they just need to be a bit more selective about which practices they model.</p>
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		<title>By: I Like Books</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/09/02/all-about-the-bonus/comment-page-1/#comment-2747</link>
		<dc:creator>I Like Books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say now that I&#039;m not familiar with the raging &quot;run a library like a business&quot; controversy. But there does seem to be this myth that businesses, being run for profit, are run efficiently and disinterestedly.

As far as disinterest goes, it seems to be common knowledge outside of business schools that a decision is made, and then a committee convened to prove the decision was the right one. E.g. &quot;We should sell big, powerful, inefficient cars.&quot; And for efficiency, I used to buy used scientific equipment from dealers who got it from departments in businesses like Motorola and Intel who had to spend their budgets by the end of the year or risk getting it cut for next year-- no bonuses there for saving money. Heck, my work just lost $2000 unnecessarily because of interference from those a step or two further up the food chain-- they knew it and didn&#039;t care. Meanwhile, parcel rates for the US Post Office aren&#039;t significantly different than for UPS or FedEx, privatized prisons aren&#039;t cheaper to run than public prisons, and the stories I&#039;ve gotten coming out of libraries suggest that they&#039;re as concerned with efficiency as anyone.

Libraries and other public firms may not have investors breathing down the necks of the boards of directors, but they do have external review, and budgets set by external players who are never going to give them as much as they want. And as far as the workers lower down on the totem pole, it doesn&#039;t make any difference at all to them whether their $8.50 per hour is coming from public or private sources. E.g. cashier or page, or phone center at a bank or a department of revenue.

Basically, I&#039;ve seen no reason to think that private businesses and public agencies are not just two examples of firms. A firm is a firm, and there can be more variation in, e.g., culture and procedures in two private businesses in the same industry than there are between the private and public worlds in general.

And since a firm is a firm, businesses probably have something to teach libraries as long as you keep in mind that it&#039;s not about the profit motive. But profit or not, there are still measures of success, and methods to achieve them. Look more at project management, quality control, reward systems... The ways that organizations achieve goals generalize beyond businesses making money.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say now that I&#8217;m not familiar with the raging &#8220;run a library like a business&#8221; controversy. But there does seem to be this myth that businesses, being run for profit, are run efficiently and disinterestedly.</p>
<p>As far as disinterest goes, it seems to be common knowledge outside of business schools that a decision is made, and then a committee convened to prove the decision was the right one. E.g. &#8220;We should sell big, powerful, inefficient cars.&#8221; And for efficiency, I used to buy used scientific equipment from dealers who got it from departments in businesses like Motorola and Intel who had to spend their budgets by the end of the year or risk getting it cut for next year&#8211; no bonuses there for saving money. Heck, my work just lost $2000 unnecessarily because of interference from those a step or two further up the food chain&#8211; they knew it and didn&#8217;t care. Meanwhile, parcel rates for the US Post Office aren&#8217;t significantly different than for UPS or FedEx, privatized prisons aren&#8217;t cheaper to run than public prisons, and the stories I&#8217;ve gotten coming out of libraries suggest that they&#8217;re as concerned with efficiency as anyone.</p>
<p>Libraries and other public firms may not have investors breathing down the necks of the boards of directors, but they do have external review, and budgets set by external players who are never going to give them as much as they want. And as far as the workers lower down on the totem pole, it doesn&#8217;t make any difference at all to them whether their $8.50 per hour is coming from public or private sources. E.g. cashier or page, or phone center at a bank or a department of revenue.</p>
<p>Basically, I&#8217;ve seen no reason to think that private businesses and public agencies are not just two examples of firms. A firm is a firm, and there can be more variation in, e.g., culture and procedures in two private businesses in the same industry than there are between the private and public worlds in general.</p>
<p>And since a firm is a firm, businesses probably have something to teach libraries as long as you keep in mind that it&#8217;s not about the profit motive. But profit or not, there are still measures of success, and methods to achieve them. Look more at project management, quality control, reward systems&#8230; The ways that organizations achieve goals generalize beyond businesses making money.</p>
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		<title>By: whiteshirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiteshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re still at it in my neck of the woods - pretending to run libraries &quot;like a business&quot; that is. Like bookstores, in this case. (They haven&#039;t noticed bookstores going broke: the chains in unsellable ways, the smaller independents just quietly folding their tents.)

However, this will also mean, if my bookstore experience is anything to go by, that before we go broke we will be unable to find anything that isn&#039;t in a dump display by the front door.

On the other hand, &quot;libraries as a business&quot; got all sorts of MBA-types lots of well-paid and dutyless jobs from their friends. 

So I guess that&#039;s what &quot;like a business&quot; is actually about - the ascendancy of the MBA caste.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re still at it in my neck of the woods &#8211; pretending to run libraries &#8220;like a business&#8221; that is. Like bookstores, in this case. (They haven&#8217;t noticed bookstores going broke: the chains in unsellable ways, the smaller independents just quietly folding their tents.)</p>
<p>However, this will also mean, if my bookstore experience is anything to go by, that before we go broke we will be unable to find anything that isn&#8217;t in a dump display by the front door.</p>
<p>On the other hand, &#8220;libraries as a business&#8221; got all sorts of MBA-types lots of well-paid and dutyless jobs from their friends. </p>
<p>So I guess that&#8217;s what &#8220;like a business&#8221; is actually about &#8211; the ascendancy of the MBA caste.</p>
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		<title>By: me too</title>
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		<dc:creator>me too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who gives a s(**&amp;t about how you spell monastery.  Haven&#039;t you heard ... to make all the PCers out there happy and to encourage our continued movement toward a homogenous milksop world, we&#039;re headed to fonetik spelling.  It will be oh so much easier to read those confounded Lewis and Clark journals now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who gives a s(**&#038;t about how you spell monastery.  Haven&#8217;t you heard &#8230; to make all the PCers out there happy and to encourage our continued movement toward a homogenous milksop world, we&#8217;re headed to fonetik spelling.  It will be oh so much easier to read those confounded Lewis and Clark journals now.</p>
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		<title>By: kc78k</title>
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		<dc:creator>kc78k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Applebees and I know I had a personality one time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Applebees and I know I had a personality one time.</p>
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		<title>By: bp62n</title>
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		<dc:creator>bp62n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have patrons asking all the time how much it would cost to buy the book from us.  I usually charge $10 for a hardback.

It has to be cash.

I have had some wonderful vacations this way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have patrons asking all the time how much it would cost to buy the book from us.  I usually charge $10 for a hardback.</p>
<p>It has to be cash.</p>
<p>I have had some wonderful vacations this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know... Roller Derby has become extremely popular in some areas and I actually know at least 10 librarians with whom I attended library school who are very active in Roller Derby.  It&#039;s a thing among lesbians and librarians in certain urban areas (and there is a large overlap between lesbians and librarians.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230; Roller Derby has become extremely popular in some areas and I actually know at least 10 librarians with whom I attended library school who are very active in Roller Derby.  It&#8217;s a thing among lesbians and librarians in certain urban areas (and there is a large overlap between lesbians and librarians.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonypotamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonypotamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually had a patron ask me as I handed them a book they requested, &quot;Okay.. how much would it be to buy this?&quot; That&#039;s a bit of a reversal, in that the patron thought of the library as a business. I considered telling the patron about these places I&#039;ve heard of called book stores, where they sell (new) books. As for bonuses, they might be feasible in private libraries, but since a public library works on a pre-approved budget, it would become a pain to actually administer. Even though I&#039;m certain I deserve a bonus just as much as some dull personality-less businessman who enjoys the food at Applebee&#039;s. Ultimately I like how libraries aren&#039;t run like a business. It lets me help people out of the goodness of my heart rather than pretend to want to help them so they&#039;ll pay for my dull personality-less kid&#039;s college education.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually had a patron ask me as I handed them a book they requested, &#8220;Okay.. how much would it be to buy this?&#8221; That&#8217;s a bit of a reversal, in that the patron thought of the library as a business. I considered telling the patron about these places I&#8217;ve heard of called book stores, where they sell (new) books. As for bonuses, they might be feasible in private libraries, but since a public library works on a pre-approved budget, it would become a pain to actually administer. Even though I&#8217;m certain I deserve a bonus just as much as some dull personality-less businessman who enjoys the food at Applebee&#8217;s. Ultimately I like how libraries aren&#8217;t run like a business. It lets me help people out of the goodness of my heart rather than pretend to want to help them so they&#8217;ll pay for my dull personality-less kid&#8217;s college education.</p>
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		<title>By: pskhn</title>
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		<dc:creator>pskhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[
I also work in a for profit career college and got a bonus for ideas I gave for cutting down on spending.

Unfortunately, my idea was to eliminate bonuses, so I never got one.

Ahhhhh, the cruel irony of working in the real world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also work in a for profit career college and got a bonus for ideas I gave for cutting down on spending.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, my idea was to eliminate bonuses, so I never got one.</p>
<p>Ahhhhh, the cruel irony of working in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: For profit librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>For profit librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work in the library of a for profit career college, and I did get a bonus one year for doing my part in cutting down on unnecessary spending.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in the library of a for profit career college, and I did get a bonus one year for doing my part in cutting down on unnecessary spending.</p>
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