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	<title>Comments on: In Which I Resist the Group Techno-Hug</title>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Anonymous Coward commented:

I was going to make a comment, but I don&#039;t think my resume is impressive enough to allow me to have an opinion. It&#039;s strange--the L2.0 crowd will fall all over themselves praising us anonymous cowards when we&#039;re editing Wikipedia (&quot;traditional notions of authority have changed!&quot;), but start frothing at the mouth when we dare to criticize anything L2.0 related.&quot;

OMG, I love you. Perfect.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anonymous Coward commented:</p>
<p>I was going to make a comment, but I don&#8217;t think my resume is impressive enough to allow me to have an opinion. It&#8217;s strange&#8211;the L2.0 crowd will fall all over themselves praising us anonymous cowards when we&#8217;re editing Wikipedia (&#8220;traditional notions of authority have changed!&#8221;), but start frothing at the mouth when we dare to criticize anything L2.0 related.&#8221;</p>
<p>OMG, I love you. Perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anon.librarian, you can belittle her schtick all you like, but remember that she never claimed to be anyone&#039;s role model. She wrote a blog about being annoyed (see, she put it right there in the title!), people read it, Library Journal agreed to pay her to write, and here we are. The blog&#039;s not called &quot;The Problem-Solving Librarian&quot;. I mean, in a broad philosophical sense, I do not feel that this is an excuse for negativity without solutions. But the reality is that the Annoyed Librarian, like most people and things in this world, are not beholden to our broad generalizations. 

In other words, who ever said you have to have solutions in order to anonymously gripe on a blog?? I wish we COULD hold the entire internet to that standard, but alas...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon.librarian, you can belittle her schtick all you like, but remember that she never claimed to be anyone&#8217;s role model. She wrote a blog about being annoyed (see, she put it right there in the title!), people read it, Library Journal agreed to pay her to write, and here we are. The blog&#8217;s not called &#8220;The Problem-Solving Librarian&#8221;. I mean, in a broad philosophical sense, I do not feel that this is an excuse for negativity without solutions. But the reality is that the Annoyed Librarian, like most people and things in this world, are not beholden to our broad generalizations. </p>
<p>In other words, who ever said you have to have solutions in order to anonymously gripe on a blog?? I wish we COULD hold the entire internet to that standard, but alas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheIlliterateLibrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheIlliterateLibrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Techserving You: I do wish I succeeded in everything I did in life. I succeed more often than not, but I fail a good portion of the time. But I&#039;m not fond of the attitude that you should only do things that you will succeed at. I&#039;m glad you are effective with everything you do in librarianship. I hope to one day rise to your level. 

Do I set out to fail? Do I set out to make lousy product? No. I try to get as much input as possible during the &quot;creation&quot; process so that it turns out the best, but a lot of times, I release things into the world, and THEN figure out by patron/colleague response what was effective and what wasn&#039;t. And trust me--those failures are valuable learning experiences. Letting kids hate on books via YouTube? Wildly successful--kids think VERY critically when they&#039;re telling you why the book they&#039;re reading in English is awful. 

Letting teenagers use glitter in crafts projects?? Not so successful. While someone else would have seen that one coming a mile away, I missed it. 

I&#039;ve had some failures in trying new things in librarianship, and I&#039;ve had some successes. But I&#039;d have never known if I wouldn&#039;t have at least put forth the effort, and put MYSELF out there, and my product out there to be criticized. 

I guess that&#039;s one thing I bring from my arts background--the ability to release a product into the &quot;wild&quot; and allow it to fail or succeed on its own, and take the criticism coming to it, no hard feelings. Should these guys be heartbroken and give up New Media just because this video is particularly awful? I don&#039;t think so. I&#039;m sure they learned a lot  in the making of the video about production values  and process. I&#039;m hopeful they&#039;ve learned things via the reaction of their patrons and their colleagues. 

I think librarians are obligated to use our time and resources wisely and not take uncalculated risks. However, I don&#039;t think librarians (or any professionals) are obligated to be RIGHT and SUCCESSFUL all the time. That&#039;s a heck of a lot of pressure to put on anyone, and I don&#039;t think ANYONE is capable of living up to that.  If we learn more from our failures than our successes, then we&#039;re missing out on valuable learning opportunities by immobilizing ourselves with the fear of failure. 

As for this video--we don&#039;t always see if we&#039;re succeeding. We see what we MEANT to do with a project, and not necessarily what we actually accomplished. We need the feedback of our patrons and peers. I think it&#039;s fair to talk about THE WORK. But we don&#039;t need to imply that these people are idiots for trying and not succeeding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Techserving You: I do wish I succeeded in everything I did in life. I succeed more often than not, but I fail a good portion of the time. But I&#8217;m not fond of the attitude that you should only do things that you will succeed at. I&#8217;m glad you are effective with everything you do in librarianship. I hope to one day rise to your level. </p>
<p>Do I set out to fail? Do I set out to make lousy product? No. I try to get as much input as possible during the &#8220;creation&#8221; process so that it turns out the best, but a lot of times, I release things into the world, and THEN figure out by patron/colleague response what was effective and what wasn&#8217;t. And trust me&#8211;those failures are valuable learning experiences. Letting kids hate on books via YouTube? Wildly successful&#8211;kids think VERY critically when they&#8217;re telling you why the book they&#8217;re reading in English is awful. </p>
<p>Letting teenagers use glitter in crafts projects?? Not so successful. While someone else would have seen that one coming a mile away, I missed it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had some failures in trying new things in librarianship, and I&#8217;ve had some successes. But I&#8217;d have never known if I wouldn&#8217;t have at least put forth the effort, and put MYSELF out there, and my product out there to be criticized. </p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s one thing I bring from my arts background&#8211;the ability to release a product into the &#8220;wild&#8221; and allow it to fail or succeed on its own, and take the criticism coming to it, no hard feelings. Should these guys be heartbroken and give up New Media just because this video is particularly awful? I don&#8217;t think so. I&#8217;m sure they learned a lot  in the making of the video about production values  and process. I&#8217;m hopeful they&#8217;ve learned things via the reaction of their patrons and their colleagues. </p>
<p>I think librarians are obligated to use our time and resources wisely and not take uncalculated risks. However, I don&#8217;t think librarians (or any professionals) are obligated to be RIGHT and SUCCESSFUL all the time. That&#8217;s a heck of a lot of pressure to put on anyone, and I don&#8217;t think ANYONE is capable of living up to that.  If we learn more from our failures than our successes, then we&#8217;re missing out on valuable learning opportunities by immobilizing ourselves with the fear of failure. </p>
<p>As for this video&#8211;we don&#8217;t always see if we&#8217;re succeeding. We see what we MEANT to do with a project, and not necessarily what we actually accomplished. We need the feedback of our patrons and peers. I think it&#8217;s fair to talk about THE WORK. But we don&#8217;t need to imply that these people are idiots for trying and not succeeding.</p>
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		<title>By: No. 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>No. 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hippieman, maybe you should propose just such a blog to LJ.  

The AL should have moved on to a new topic, however, I suppose it was too hard to resist stoking a fire that so many people (on all sides) were still warming their hands around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hippieman, maybe you should propose just such a blog to LJ.  </p>
<p>The AL should have moved on to a new topic, however, I suppose it was too hard to resist stoking a fire that so many people (on all sides) were still warming their hands around.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YAWN!!! new topic, please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAWN!!! new topic, please.</p>
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		<title>By: yapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>yapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;that&#039;s cool, huh-huh. huh.&quot;

Pop-culture reference there is a decade-and-a-half old, but I appreciate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that&#8217;s cool, huh-huh. huh.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pop-culture reference there is a decade-and-a-half old, but I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Beevis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Oneohonions&quot;

that&#039;s cool, huh-huh. huh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oneohonions&#8221;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s cool, huh-huh. huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Spekkio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spekkio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see how the AL compares to Faux Noise or right-wing hate radio at all. Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how the AL compares to Faux Noise or right-wing hate radio at all. Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Psmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I salute the courage of the Anonymous One and John Berry or whomever of Library Journal for writing, publishing and providing space for this magnficent blog. And I&#039;ve worked more years, answered more questions, tougher questions, had more problem patrons, dealt with more systems, had more jobs than any two Monsieur Deschampes. So therefore my vote counts more. And my name isn&#039;t Psmith. Plus people like me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I salute the courage of the Anonymous One and John Berry or whomever of Library Journal for writing, publishing and providing space for this magnficent blog. And I&#8217;ve worked more years, answered more questions, tougher questions, had more problem patrons, dealt with more systems, had more jobs than any two Monsieur Deschampes. So therefore my vote counts more. And my name isn&#8217;t Psmith. Plus people like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lis_student... I totally agree with you about library school.  It was really one of the biggest frustrations and something I commented about to other people (outside of school.)  In college, learning always involved serious discussion and debate - no one could say something stupid and have people let it lie... we looked at everything from every angle, and people were called to the carpet when they said things that were wrong or made no sense.  In library school, it was as it is in the library in which I currently work... so &#039;polite&#039; (well, passive-aggressive....) no one can question anything or they are seen as overly-aggressive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lis_student&#8230; I totally agree with you about library school.  It was really one of the biggest frustrations and something I commented about to other people (outside of school.)  In college, learning always involved serious discussion and debate &#8211; no one could say something stupid and have people let it lie&#8230; we looked at everything from every angle, and people were called to the carpet when they said things that were wrong or made no sense.  In library school, it was as it is in the library in which I currently work&#8230; so &#8216;polite&#8217; (well, passive-aggressive&#8230;.) no one can question anything or they are seen as overly-aggressive.</p>
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