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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Ozzie</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/11/16/political-librarians-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;return books at my library and them not do there jobs i retuns books i have two still on my account one i have in disput i retun it way before the due date they still didn&#039;t check it in i call even went down there i wish you can check on them to see who is not do there jobs we can check the books out i wish you change it were we can check them in this is abount the three time this has had to me i have more books out i tire of this i don&#039;t know what to do i bring them back and still said i have them out what do i do i try email the library main brach but did&#039;t get a answer back i call them that&#039;s when they put the book back in disput i wish there someone who can check on them ti see if they are do their jobs&quot;

Proof positive that the Dummy Books for Psychotic Episodes really don&#039;t work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;return books at my library and them not do there jobs i retuns books i have two still on my account one i have in disput i retun it way before the due date they still didn&#8217;t check it in i call even went down there i wish you can check on them to see who is not do there jobs we can check the books out i wish you change it were we can check them in this is abount the three time this has had to me i have more books out i tire of this i don&#8217;t know what to do i bring them back and still said i have them out what do i do i try email the library main brach but did&#8217;t get a answer back i call them that&#8217;s when they put the book back in disput i wish there someone who can check on them ti see if they are do their jobs&#8221;</p>
<p>Proof positive that the Dummy Books for Psychotic Episodes really don&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[return books at my library and them not do there jobs i retuns books i have two still on my account one i have in disput i retun it way before the due date they still didn&#039;t check it in i call even went down there i wish you can check on them to see who is not do there jobs we can check the books out i wish you change it were we can check them in this is abount the three time this has had to me i have more books out i tire of this i don&#039;t know what to do i bring them back and still said i have them out what do i do i try email the library main brach but did&#039;t get a answer back i call them that&#039;s when they put the book back in disput i wish there someone who can check on them ti see if they are do their jobs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>return books at my library and them not do there jobs i retuns books i have two still on my account one i have in disput i retun it way before the due date they still didn&#8217;t check it in i call even went down there i wish you can check on them to see who is not do there jobs we can check the books out i wish you change it were we can check them in this is abount the three time this has had to me i have more books out i tire of this i don&#8217;t know what to do i bring them back and still said i have them out what do i do i try email the library main brach but did&#8217;t get a answer back i call them that&#8217;s when they put the book back in disput i wish there someone who can check on them ti see if they are do their jobs</p>
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		<title>By: DeyonnaLibrarian</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/11/16/political-librarians-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>DeyonnaLibrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, way to base an argument on name calling.  Whether librarians should take political stances is a major debate in the profession that has been going on for almost a century.  And you&#039;ve think your going to contribute to it with a page of petty insults.  

Who do they let write these Library Journal blogs anyway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, way to base an argument on name calling.  Whether librarians should take political stances is a major debate in the profession that has been going on for almost a century.  And you&#8217;ve think your going to contribute to it with a page of petty insults.  </p>
<p>Who do they let write these Library Journal blogs anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: John Berry, LJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Berry, LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Well LJ asked for this. I&#039;ve been in ALA so long enough I get in for nothing. I&#039;m a political infiltrator, gald we ALA on record against Vienam, for ERA, etc., etc., etc. Every issue is a librarian issue. Keep ALA activist!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Well LJ asked for this. I&#8217;ve been in ALA so long enough I get in for nothing. I&#8217;m a political infiltrator, gald we ALA on record against Vienam, for ERA, etc., etc., etc. Every issue is a librarian issue. Keep ALA activist!</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You pretending to be Techser</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/11/16/political-librarians-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1798</link>
		<dc:creator>Techserving You pretending to be Techser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Techserving You, I see you&#039;re taking the bait in a BIG way. It seems not much has changed around here! I thought Library Journal was going to change the comment platform, I see they haven&#039;t. Don&#039;t respond and believe me, they&#039;ll go away. They need instant gratification.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Techserving You, I see you&#8217;re taking the bait in a BIG way. It seems not much has changed around here! I thought Library Journal was going to change the comment platform, I see they haven&#8217;t. Don&#8217;t respond and believe me, they&#8217;ll go away. They need instant gratification.</p>
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		<title>By: Rake</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/11/16/political-librarians-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1799</link>
		<dc:creator>Rake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a difference between &quot;every book a reader&quot; and &quot;all viewpoints are represented.&quot; The former indicates that every book in the collection should have a reasonable prospect of being checked out. The latter means that the library should get every book conceivable on a particular topic, whether or not it may be checked out, an idea that is not only unattainable, but insensible. If this is what the instructor maintained, then he was wrong, and of course he shouldn&#039;t have contradicted himself if that&#039;s what he did.

And yes, if the conservative community&#039;s requests are being denied for ideological reasons, that is unacceptable. In my experience, the reverse is more often the case, but most public libraries are fairly responsive to requests.

And, I think the fact that professors with a &quot;liberal&quot; stance, if we define it in this case as anti-segregationist, is indeed more common in universities. In my opinion, this isn&#039;t a result of conspiracy, but because people who are anti-gay and anti-diversity are generally less intelligent than those who are for equal rights. Thankfully we are seeing the anti-gay ideas becoming less socially acceptable, as we have for the last 50 years with anti-black/anti-&quot;diversity&quot; ideas. You &quot;conservatives&quot; would have to initiate an affirmative action campaign to get yourself back in to teaching positions (&quot;yes we are less intelligent, but we deserve an equal chance to teach&quot;), but that is against your beliefs, so a catch 22 there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference between &#8220;every book a reader&#8221; and &#8220;all viewpoints are represented.&#8221; The former indicates that every book in the collection should have a reasonable prospect of being checked out. The latter means that the library should get every book conceivable on a particular topic, whether or not it may be checked out, an idea that is not only unattainable, but insensible. If this is what the instructor maintained, then he was wrong, and of course he shouldn&#8217;t have contradicted himself if that&#8217;s what he did.</p>
<p>And yes, if the conservative community&#8217;s requests are being denied for ideological reasons, that is unacceptable. In my experience, the reverse is more often the case, but most public libraries are fairly responsive to requests.</p>
<p>And, I think the fact that professors with a &#8220;liberal&#8221; stance, if we define it in this case as anti-segregationist, is indeed more common in universities. In my opinion, this isn&#8217;t a result of conspiracy, but because people who are anti-gay and anti-diversity are generally less intelligent than those who are for equal rights. Thankfully we are seeing the anti-gay ideas becoming less socially acceptable, as we have for the last 50 years with anti-black/anti-&#8221;diversity&#8221; ideas. You &#8220;conservatives&#8221; would have to initiate an affirmative action campaign to get yourself back in to teaching positions (&#8220;yes we are less intelligent, but we deserve an equal chance to teach&#8221;), but that is against your beliefs, so a catch 22 there.</p>
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		<title>By: ConfusedByItAll</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/11/16/political-librarians-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1800</link>
		<dc:creator>ConfusedByItAll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, he gave two different answers to the same question, and it all depended upon the material in question.  I didn&#039;t &quot;trick&quot; him, I expected him to say the same thing for both situations and was quite disappointed that he didn&#039;t, because he had been such a big proponent of making sure &quot;all&quot; viewpoints were represented, but I guess that was only for anti-conservative topics.  I really was surprised he flip-flopped.

The library community in question has a demographic pretty evenly split between the 2 parties, by the way, so there is no &quot;one&quot; overriding theme.  When the community continually asks for conservative books and they are denied, that goes against what libraries are &quot;supposed&quot; to be about.

And yes, the &quot;insidious liberals&quot; have infected our schools, proven by the fact that promoting pro-homosexual anything is fine, but having the audacity to say that you want a pro-hetero stance portrayed as well is considered hate speech.

So, silly boy, I didn&#039;t try to &quot;catch&quot; him, he threw himself in the net by being intellectually dishonest.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, he gave two different answers to the same question, and it all depended upon the material in question.  I didn&#8217;t &#8220;trick&#8221; him, I expected him to say the same thing for both situations and was quite disappointed that he didn&#8217;t, because he had been such a big proponent of making sure &#8220;all&#8221; viewpoints were represented, but I guess that was only for anti-conservative topics.  I really was surprised he flip-flopped.</p>
<p>The library community in question has a demographic pretty evenly split between the 2 parties, by the way, so there is no &#8220;one&#8221; overriding theme.  When the community continually asks for conservative books and they are denied, that goes against what libraries are &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be about.</p>
<p>And yes, the &#8220;insidious liberals&#8221; have infected our schools, proven by the fact that promoting pro-homosexual anything is fine, but having the audacity to say that you want a pro-hetero stance portrayed as well is considered hate speech.</p>
<p>So, silly boy, I didn&#8217;t try to &#8220;catch&#8221; him, he threw himself in the net by being intellectually dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: Rake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Confused by it all:

Well, it is &quot;every book a reader,&quot; which is the same thing as, purchase &quot;what the community wants.&quot; Every viewpoint doesn&#039;t have to be represented if no one is likely to care, and it&#039;s the collection development librarian&#039;s job to evaluate that.

Pushing a bunch of Conservative Christian propaganda on most communities will be a waste of time, and it will just collect dust. Likewise, filling a Christian library with anti-God vitriol is also a waste of time and money.

The real point of your post is to show us how you &quot;caught&quot; him by being so tricky, and to show us how the insidious liberals have infected our schools. That&#039;s annoying and innaccurate; most of us have been burned out on that song and dance for several years now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Confused by it all:</p>
<p>Well, it is &#8220;every book a reader,&#8221; which is the same thing as, purchase &#8220;what the community wants.&#8221; Every viewpoint doesn&#8217;t have to be represented if no one is likely to care, and it&#8217;s the collection development librarian&#8217;s job to evaluate that.</p>
<p>Pushing a bunch of Conservative Christian propaganda on most communities will be a waste of time, and it will just collect dust. Likewise, filling a Christian library with anti-God vitriol is also a waste of time and money.</p>
<p>The real point of your post is to show us how you &#8220;caught&#8221; him by being so tricky, and to show us how the insidious liberals have infected our schools. That&#8217;s annoying and innaccurate; most of us have been burned out on that song and dance for several years now.</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/11/16/political-librarians-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1802</link>
		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, in light of your behavior, troll, I most likely AM better than you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, in light of your behavior, troll, I most likely AM better than you are.</p>
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		<title>By: ConfusedByItAll</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2009/11/16/political-librarians-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-1803</link>
		<dc:creator>ConfusedByItAll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember in class once we were talking about censorship of gay, liberal, any-not-conservative materials and how important it is that &quot;every potential viewpoint has a book/every book a reader&quot; Ranganathan rubric.  

Several classes later, the topic resurfaced briefly, and I raised my hand and queried the prof about what would happen if a certain library refused to buy any very Conservative Christian books or books that point out the dangers of forced Diversity -- suddenly his answer was, well, you have to fill the shelves with what the community wants, since it&#039;s their tax money.  

I swear you could smell the rubber from the backpeddling.

So which is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember in class once we were talking about censorship of gay, liberal, any-not-conservative materials and how important it is that &#8220;every potential viewpoint has a book/every book a reader&#8221; Ranganathan rubric.  </p>
<p>Several classes later, the topic resurfaced briefly, and I raised my hand and queried the prof about what would happen if a certain library refused to buy any very Conservative Christian books or books that point out the dangers of forced Diversity &#8212; suddenly his answer was, well, you have to fill the shelves with what the community wants, since it&#8217;s their tax money.  </p>
<p>I swear you could smell the rubber from the backpeddling.</p>
<p>So which is it?</p>
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