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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/05/05/no-one-chooses-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9154</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Librarians need to show people how to use blogs and Twitter and Facebook andMySpace and Youtube and Flikr and every other tool designed to eliminate privacy!&quot;

This is the most alarmist and misleading way possible to phrase this sentiment.  Sharing information is technically eliminating privacy, I suppose, but it&#039;s not as though there&#039;s some sort of Privacy Reservoir out there that&#039;s being drained by every Twitter post.  In other words, you can&#039;t eliminate the privacy of anyone else by creating a Facebook profile - so phrasing it in the way you&#039;ve chosen makes little sense.  Banal people exist, and technology allows them to moo and baa in a sterile little pen online.  Who is it harming?  What are you fighting against? 

&quot;They’re also the least private among librarians, always &quot;sharing&quot; with us and shamelessly promoting themselves. Those librarians certainly don’t value privacy.&quot;

If privacy represents a virtue to you, I&#039;d say that&#039;s fine but it&#039;s basically arbitrary - there&#039;s nothing inherently moral or whatever about keeping to yourself.  But if you&#039;re saying that shame should be a virtue - that people should sit down and be quiet or face shame - then I don&#039;t know what to tell you.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s entirely healthy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Librarians need to show people how to use blogs and Twitter and Facebook andMySpace and Youtube and Flikr and every other tool designed to eliminate privacy!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the most alarmist and misleading way possible to phrase this sentiment.  Sharing information is technically eliminating privacy, I suppose, but it&#8217;s not as though there&#8217;s some sort of Privacy Reservoir out there that&#8217;s being drained by every Twitter post.  In other words, you can&#8217;t eliminate the privacy of anyone else by creating a Facebook profile &#8211; so phrasing it in the way you&#8217;ve chosen makes little sense.  Banal people exist, and technology allows them to moo and baa in a sterile little pen online.  Who is it harming?  What are you fighting against? </p>
<p>&#8220;They’re also the least private among librarians, always &#8220;sharing&#8221; with us and shamelessly promoting themselves. Those librarians certainly don’t value privacy.&#8221;</p>
<p>If privacy represents a virtue to you, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s fine but it&#8217;s basically arbitrary &#8211; there&#8217;s nothing inherently moral or whatever about keeping to yourself.  But if you&#8217;re saying that shame should be a virtue &#8211; that people should sit down and be quiet or face shame &#8211; then I don&#8217;t know what to tell you.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s entirely healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Fancy Nancy</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/05/05/no-one-chooses-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Fancy Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 10:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yar - what you said hit the nail on the head: &quot;If you had a reference question to get answered or a book to find - would you go to a mover and shaker who outreached, marketed, created a program - or someone who was on desk alot?&quot;

The people who use our library use our services at the reference desk all day long.  And yet, the powers that be here - the program planners, mainly - are looking to do away with the reference desk.  It&#039;s so very very sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yar &#8211; what you said hit the nail on the head: &#8220;If you had a reference question to get answered or a book to find &#8211; would you go to a mover and shaker who outreached, marketed, created a program &#8211; or someone who was on desk alot?&#8221;</p>
<p>The people who use our library use our services at the reference desk all day long.  And yet, the powers that be here &#8211; the program planners, mainly &#8211; are looking to do away with the reference desk.  It&#8217;s so very very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/05/05/no-one-chooses-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 07:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love how you use your outstanding information-gathering skills to prove your point.  Your research and writing skills are so amazing that it&#039;s not tedious at all to read the data you collected--you seamlessly make it sound like a blog conversation written by an embittered crab.  I&#039;m sure those idiots at the NY Times, who published Tell All Generation Learns to Keep Things Offline, and Pew feel really dumb now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you use your outstanding information-gathering skills to prove your point.  Your research and writing skills are so amazing that it&#8217;s not tedious at all to read the data you collected&#8211;you seamlessly make it sound like a blog conversation written by an embittered crab.  I&#8217;m sure those idiots at the NY Times, who published Tell All Generation Learns to Keep Things Offline, and Pew feel really dumb now.</p>
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		<title>By: Stinky Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stinky Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 09:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no friends.

For real.

This is not a troll post, just a statement of fact.

And if you knew me, you would know that I am incapable of sustained human contact.

It is why I became a librarian, I love books not people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no friends.</p>
<p>For real.</p>
<p>This is not a troll post, just a statement of fact.</p>
<p>And if you knew me, you would know that I am incapable of sustained human contact.</p>
<p>It is why I became a librarian, I love books not people.</p>
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		<title>By: Library Goddess</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/05/05/no-one-chooses-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Library Goddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 09:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eat or be eaten.  You too can be irrelevant. I say, if you wanna be private, ok.  If you wanna hang all your wash out in public, go for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eat or be eaten.  You too can be irrelevant. I say, if you wanna be private, ok.  If you wanna hang all your wash out in public, go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stinky Pete</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/05/05/no-one-chooses-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Stinky Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 06:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The basic reason that librarians, for the most part, hate Facebook, twitter, etc is the fact that you need friends to be really involved with those sites.

Librarians are generally recluses who travel from work to their small shack, where they live alone, tend their 10 cats, and plant a sensible vegetable garden.

Social life has past them by at the age of 17.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic reason that librarians, for the most part, hate Facebook, twitter, etc is the fact that you need friends to be really involved with those sites.</p>
<p>Librarians are generally recluses who travel from work to their small shack, where they live alone, tend their 10 cats, and plant a sensible vegetable garden.</p>
<p>Social life has past them by at the age of 17.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facebook and other social networking sites would be of very little value if people didn&#039;t share personal information. That doesn&#039;t mean SSIDs or credit card numbers, of course, but if people don&#039;t share primarily personal information, the sites will dry up. It&#039;s why people join them and continue using them. So says Uses and Gratifications theory and any number of other theories from Soc/Psyc.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook and other social networking sites would be of very little value if people didn&#8217;t share personal information. That doesn&#8217;t mean SSIDs or credit card numbers, of course, but if people don&#8217;t share primarily personal information, the sites will dry up. It&#8217;s why people join them and continue using them. So says Uses and Gratifications theory and any number of other theories from Soc/Psyc.</p>
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		<title>By: Raynor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raynor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 13:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Of course, it takes them some good quality time to write out and interfile the index cards on new books that are being placed into the system, reference questions have to be of the highest quality to meet the standards of the print indexes that have to be consulted, and I patrons have to get used to the library being open 9 to 2:30 Monday through Friday. &lt;/i&gt;

Because we are obviously faced with a choice between using index cards or using every single technological innovation that exists. And god forbid someone actually determines whether something is useful before demanding that every single library in the country use it and condemning those who don&#039;t as luddites.

&lt;i&gt;Privacy DOES matter to people. Take a look at epic.org, eff.org, ftc.gov/privacy, etc. People share things, but that doesn&#039;t mean that they intend to give up control of their information.&lt;/i&gt;

Three sites with Alexa rankings of 129,302; 17,888; and 6,786, respectively. Meanwhile, Facebook and Twitter are 2 and 12. A site that people gave their credit card numbers to, and which then proceeded to leak those credit card numbers, broke into the top 15,000.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Of course, it takes them some good quality time to write out and interfile the index cards on new books that are being placed into the system, reference questions have to be of the highest quality to meet the standards of the print indexes that have to be consulted, and I patrons have to get used to the library being open 9 to 2:30 Monday through Friday. </i></p>
<p>Because we are obviously faced with a choice between using index cards or using every single technological innovation that exists. And god forbid someone actually determines whether something is useful before demanding that every single library in the country use it and condemning those who don&#8217;t as luddites.</p>
<p><i>Privacy DOES matter to people. Take a look at epic.org, eff.org, ftc.gov/privacy, etc. People share things, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they intend to give up control of their information.</i></p>
<p>Three sites with Alexa rankings of 129,302; 17,888; and 6,786, respectively. Meanwhile, Facebook and Twitter are 2 and 12. A site that people gave their credit card numbers to, and which then proceeded to leak those credit card numbers, broke into the top 15,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Spekkio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spekkio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 13:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to strongly disagree with the AL on this. First, while I tend to be very skeptical of the ALA&#039;s purpose and activities, this &quot;Choose Privacy&quot; week could not have come at a better time, given the newest battle over privacy controls on Facebook. (I would provide a URL with information for those who aren&#039;t familiar with the topic, but for some reason, this system won&#039;t allow it.)

Second, Facebook can be a very useful tool. Not only does it help friends communicate, it facilitates new friendships, new gatherings, and communications between people who share interests or values. It has also proven to be useful for political and social organizing and activities.

Third, when the AL talks about &quot;desperate&quot; people (paragraph six) I truly hope she didn&#039;t mean to insult people who use Facebook as a means of connecting to people because they have difficulties (y&#039;know, DISABILITIES) that prevent them from engaging in the &quot;real&quot; interactions that so many people take for granted. How many people with disabilities use Facebook and other social networking tools to make their lives better? I don&#039;t know - I do know that a team at Carnegie Mellon University is studying it. 

Perhaps the AL just forgot about us - people with autism, Asperger&#039;s syndrome, social anxiety disorder, agoraphobia, anthropophobia, etc - and didn&#039;t mean to insult a sizeable minority. I hope that&#039;s the case, anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to strongly disagree with the AL on this. First, while I tend to be very skeptical of the ALA&#8217;s purpose and activities, this &#8220;Choose Privacy&#8221; week could not have come at a better time, given the newest battle over privacy controls on Facebook. (I would provide a URL with information for those who aren&#8217;t familiar with the topic, but for some reason, this system won&#8217;t allow it.)</p>
<p>Second, Facebook can be a very useful tool. Not only does it help friends communicate, it facilitates new friendships, new gatherings, and communications between people who share interests or values. It has also proven to be useful for political and social organizing and activities.</p>
<p>Third, when the AL talks about &#8220;desperate&#8221; people (paragraph six) I truly hope she didn&#8217;t mean to insult people who use Facebook as a means of connecting to people because they have difficulties (y&#8217;know, DISABILITIES) that prevent them from engaging in the &#8220;real&#8221; interactions that so many people take for granted. How many people with disabilities use Facebook and other social networking tools to make their lives better? I don&#8217;t know &#8211; I do know that a team at Carnegie Mellon University is studying it. </p>
<p>Perhaps the AL just forgot about us &#8211; people with autism, Asperger&#8217;s syndrome, social anxiety disorder, agoraphobia, anthropophobia, etc &#8211; and didn&#8217;t mean to insult a sizeable minority. I hope that&#8217;s the case, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Disappointed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disappointed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 11:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Privacy DOES matter to people. Take a look at epic.org, eff.org, ftc.gov/privacy, etc. People share things, but that doesn&#039;t mean that they intend to give up control of their information. Connection also matters to people, and I think this is a positive, human quality. The issue is finding a way to balance between the personal and the shared. This is such an interesting and timely topic. I wish your post had been more thoughtful and less hateful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privacy DOES matter to people. Take a look at epic.org, eff.org, ftc.gov/privacy, etc. People share things, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they intend to give up control of their information. Connection also matters to people, and I think this is a positive, human quality. The issue is finding a way to balance between the personal and the shared. This is such an interesting and timely topic. I wish your post had been more thoughtful and less hateful.</p>
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