<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Bad Jobs are Bad for Us All</title>
	<atom:link href="http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/</link>
	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 03:43:56 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Freaked Out</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-19900</link>
		<dc:creator>Freaked Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-19900</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I just started library school and now I get around to reading all these blogs. I&#039;m freaked out at my prospects when I graduate. That being said, I have met 3 young recently graduated librarians who all got jobs out of school. Jobs that I would love to have. One who got a job offer before he graduated. So I see these examples and then I read all these comments.
What distinguishes someone from the rest exactly? I go to school with young people like me who are just getting into this profession and with people who already work in the field. I moved across the country to go to a program because I didn&#039;t want to just get my degree online. Was it worth it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started library school and now I get around to reading all these blogs. I&#8217;m freaked out at my prospects when I graduate. That being said, I have met 3 young recently graduated librarians who all got jobs out of school. Jobs that I would love to have. One who got a job offer before he graduated. So I see these examples and then I read all these comments.<br />
What distinguishes someone from the rest exactly? I go to school with young people like me who are just getting into this profession and with people who already work in the field. I moved across the country to go to a program because I didn&#8217;t want to just get my degree online. Was it worth it?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bruce Campbell</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18898</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18898</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t think there were that many idiots at Drexel. There were a few older people who didn&#039;t seem that computer literate.

As I was in Lib-school I worked with some people who weren&#039;t especially bright and they went to schools with laxer admission standards/grading than Drexel.

So, consider yourself lucky. And you&#039;re employer paid for it. Why are you complaining again?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think there were that many idiots at Drexel. There were a few older people who didn&#8217;t seem that computer literate.</p>
<p>As I was in Lib-school I worked with some people who weren&#8217;t especially bright and they went to schools with laxer admission standards/grading than Drexel.</p>
<p>So, consider yourself lucky. And you&#8217;re employer paid for it. Why are you complaining again?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18877</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18877</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a recent graduate of the Rutgers program. Knowing some of my fellow graduates, the idea that it is somehow &#039;exclusive&#039; boggles my mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a recent graduate of the Rutgers program. Knowing some of my fellow graduates, the idea that it is somehow &#8216;exclusive&#8217; boggles my mind.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18874</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18874</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Stephanie, need a hug?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, need a hug?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18806</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18806</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The bulk of the library school discussion is centered around &quot;they should be competitive&quot; and you, Bruce Campbell, chime in with &quot;wow, well at least Drexel has requirements&quot;. To me, it sounded like you were defending it.

As for Drexel going downhill, your SHOUTING really doesn&#039;t make Ye Olde Drexel look good either.

Danielle, it sounds like you chose a good library school. I gritted my teeth through my terrible library school experience because I wanted to be a librarian, obviously. Getting a waste-of-time degree in order to do something I love? Boy does that sound pretentious! Give me a break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bulk of the library school discussion is centered around &#8220;they should be competitive&#8221; and you, Bruce Campbell, chime in with &#8220;wow, well at least Drexel has requirements&#8221;. To me, it sounded like you were defending it.</p>
<p>As for Drexel going downhill, your SHOUTING really doesn&#8217;t make Ye Olde Drexel look good either.</p>
<p>Danielle, it sounds like you chose a good library school. I gritted my teeth through my terrible library school experience because I wanted to be a librarian, obviously. Getting a waste-of-time degree in order to do something I love? Boy does that sound pretentious! Give me a break.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bruce Campbell</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18795</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18795</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[To Stepanie:
The GPA minimum of 3.2 does not at ALL make it a competitive admissions process and I find it sad that you think so.

Did you read my post? I didn&#039;t say it was competitive, but I said there were REQUIRMENTS. Whereas there are no REQUIREMENTS for other library schools.

I find it sad that someone going to Drexel cannot read. The place has really gone downhill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Stepanie:<br />
The GPA minimum of 3.2 does not at ALL make it a competitive admissions process and I find it sad that you think so.</p>
<p>Did you read my post? I didn&#8217;t say it was competitive, but I said there were REQUIRMENTS. Whereas there are no REQUIREMENTS for other library schools.</p>
<p>I find it sad that someone going to Drexel cannot read. The place has really gone downhill.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18774</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18774</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Rutgers has a competitive program. Anyone who has applied or went there knows this. Further, if you think library school is so beneath you, then why did you even bother going through the effort of acquiring a degree? Seriously, pretentious much?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rutgers has a competitive program. Anyone who has applied or went there knows this. Further, if you think library school is so beneath you, then why did you even bother going through the effort of acquiring a degree? Seriously, pretentious much?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bridge to nowhere</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18728</link>
		<dc:creator>bridge to nowhere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18728</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry, losingfaith, the part-time jobs will come back when the older librarians in charge want them to. They&#039;ve created the myth of a labor shortage so that they can justify creating &quot;bridge jobs&quot; for experienced librarians such as themselves who only want to semi-retire: http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?articleid=1580468&amp;show=html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, losingfaith, the part-time jobs will come back when the older librarians in charge want them to. They&#8217;ve created the myth of a labor shortage so that they can justify creating &#8220;bridge jobs&#8221; for experienced librarians such as themselves who only want to semi-retire: <a href="http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?articleid=1580468&#038;show=html" rel="nofollow">http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?articleid=1580468&#038;show=html</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vibe</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18706</link>
		<dc:creator>Vibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 23:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18706</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Arrogant &quot;professional&quot; blowhards.  I assumed only the librarians at the university where I worked were self-righteous snobs, but reading the comments here I see that&#039;s not the case.  I am one of those dim mediocrities trying to better my life situation by getting a job in a field I think I will enjoy.  But the generalizations of library school students I am reading here make me regret my chosen profession today.

If I have to take a different job when I graduate because there are no jobs in the field so be it.  The engineer that&#039;s working as a barista and the MBA that is working a retail job knows where I&#039;m coming from.  I am aware the job outlook sucks and librarians are working for crap wages generally.  But your solution of increasing the &quot;quality&quot; and decreasing the quantity of the graduates leaving library school is just foolish.  Soon having a masters will be the minimum qualification for making a livable wage.  Trying to make &quot;librarian&quot; an elite title is funny.  Unless you are in the medical professions - there is a surplus of workforce in nearly every field.  Only the competitive will get the best jobs and the rest will have to settle.  I don&#039;t care what that does to the professionals who feel exploited.  Join a union and quit blaming recent graduates.  I highly doubt library school was any harder to get through when you all were were there and I certainly don&#039;t think you had the determination to do classes online while working and raising a family and having &quot;professionals&quot; look down on you for your sub-professional employment positions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrogant &#8220;professional&#8221; blowhards.  I assumed only the librarians at the university where I worked were self-righteous snobs, but reading the comments here I see that&#8217;s not the case.  I am one of those dim mediocrities trying to better my life situation by getting a job in a field I think I will enjoy.  But the generalizations of library school students I am reading here make me regret my chosen profession today.</p>
<p>If I have to take a different job when I graduate because there are no jobs in the field so be it.  The engineer that&#8217;s working as a barista and the MBA that is working a retail job knows where I&#8217;m coming from.  I am aware the job outlook sucks and librarians are working for crap wages generally.  But your solution of increasing the &#8220;quality&#8221; and decreasing the quantity of the graduates leaving library school is just foolish.  Soon having a masters will be the minimum qualification for making a livable wage.  Trying to make &#8220;librarian&#8221; an elite title is funny.  Unless you are in the medical professions &#8211; there is a surplus of workforce in nearly every field.  Only the competitive will get the best jobs and the rest will have to settle.  I don&#8217;t care what that does to the professionals who feel exploited.  Join a union and quit blaming recent graduates.  I highly doubt library school was any harder to get through when you all were were there and I certainly don&#8217;t think you had the determination to do classes online while working and raising a family and having &#8220;professionals&#8221; look down on you for your sub-professional employment positions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: losingfaithinhumanity</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2010/10/20/bad-jobs-are-bad-for-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-18696</link>
		<dc:creator>losingfaithinhumanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/?p=435#comment-18696</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Looking at jobs that are posted in Canada, I see that most of them are at a Management level. Very few are entry-level or require minimal experience. 

I think it&#039;s because, as jobs are vacated (by retirement or otherwise), those management or supervisory positions NEED to be filled, but libraries are leaving lower professional positions vacant. You can get managers to do a lot of grunt work under the guise of &quot;that&#039;s why they get paid the big bucks.&quot; We have 3 part-time jobs unfilled at the moment. Many of our other p/t jobs have been filled on a contract basis - despite them having been permanent positions up until someone moved out of them. One full-time job was posted as a p/t job. 

What it means is that the existing staff absorb the duties, hours, etc. of those jobs. We&#039;re being told that this is all for the next 2 years, while budgets are tight and until the economy bounces back. 

I think it&#039;s going to be permanent. If they see that we can manage like this for 2 years, it&#039;ll become status quo. Those jobs are never coming back. And then you have staff doing more with less time and fewer resources. I can already see burnout. So potentially strong and great librarians are becoming mediocre because they&#039;re expected to do too much.

And because of that situation, I honestly WISH we had those crappy jobs. I WISH we had casual staff we could call in. I&#039;d feel badly for those librarians who had to take those jobs, but it would sure help as a system.

Seems like things are just in dire straits no matter what kind of job or library you&#039;re in.

I feel like I would have loved (and been good at) this profession 20 years ago. Maybe even just 5 years ago. But I fear that I jumped onto a sinking ship when I joined this profession.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at jobs that are posted in Canada, I see that most of them are at a Management level. Very few are entry-level or require minimal experience. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s because, as jobs are vacated (by retirement or otherwise), those management or supervisory positions NEED to be filled, but libraries are leaving lower professional positions vacant. You can get managers to do a lot of grunt work under the guise of &#8220;that&#8217;s why they get paid the big bucks.&#8221; We have 3 part-time jobs unfilled at the moment. Many of our other p/t jobs have been filled on a contract basis &#8211; despite them having been permanent positions up until someone moved out of them. One full-time job was posted as a p/t job. </p>
<p>What it means is that the existing staff absorb the duties, hours, etc. of those jobs. We&#8217;re being told that this is all for the next 2 years, while budgets are tight and until the economy bounces back. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s going to be permanent. If they see that we can manage like this for 2 years, it&#8217;ll become status quo. Those jobs are never coming back. And then you have staff doing more with less time and fewer resources. I can already see burnout. So potentially strong and great librarians are becoming mediocre because they&#8217;re expected to do too much.</p>
<p>And because of that situation, I honestly WISH we had those crappy jobs. I WISH we had casual staff we could call in. I&#8217;d feel badly for those librarians who had to take those jobs, but it would sure help as a system.</p>
<p>Seems like things are just in dire straits no matter what kind of job or library you&#8217;re in.</p>
<p>I feel like I would have loved (and been good at) this profession 20 years ago. Maybe even just 5 years ago. But I fear that I jumped onto a sinking ship when I joined this profession.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

 Served from: lj.libraryjournal.com @ 2013-05-25 06:43:59 by W3 Total Cache -->