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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/01/17/substance-not-style/comment-page-1/#comment-29449</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mickey, I don&#039;t think we&#039;re reading the same comment threads. You see this:

&quot;Are you kidding Andrew? Read it all again…First she was all “Blah Blah Blah Im right, Meridith is wrong yada yada yada” and then Meridith posted a reply, then some other people did as well, and then she was all “Im retracting my statement and wishing Meridith all the luck and love in the world blah blah blah yada yada yada”…&quot;

When what the AL actually did was restate her position (stated earlier in the article itself) that she thinks the young hipster librarian in question is good at self-promotion. Again, nowhere does she retract anything she said before or back down from the position that substance &gt; style.

You might know APA backwards and forwards, but reading comprehension obviously isn&#039;t one of your strong suits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re reading the same comment threads. You see this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you kidding Andrew? Read it all again…First she was all “Blah Blah Blah Im right, Meridith is wrong yada yada yada” and then Meridith posted a reply, then some other people did as well, and then she was all “Im retracting my statement and wishing Meridith all the luck and love in the world blah blah blah yada yada yada”…&#8221;</p>
<p>When what the AL actually did was restate her position (stated earlier in the article itself) that she thinks the young hipster librarian in question is good at self-promotion. Again, nowhere does she retract anything she said before or back down from the position that substance &gt; style.</p>
<p>You might know APA backwards and forwards, but reading comprehension obviously isn&#8217;t one of your strong suits.</p>
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		<title>By: librariankris</title>
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		<dc:creator>librariankris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meredith, if you&#039;re still reading this, can I say one thing with all due respect?

If you think the comments here and from AL have been mean-spirited and hurtful, maybe working with teens (or the public in general) isn&#039;t for you.  I&#039;ve been a teen librarian, and while it does have its rewards, it also has a lot of bad days when you get cussed out, yelled at, harassed, or just plain ignored.  Speaking as someone who has fought the thin-skinned battle myself, get tough or don&#039;t try it.  Teens are not always a warm and fuzzy bunch.  They also can spot a phony at a half mile, so whatever you are, be yourself.  I&#039;ve seen excellent 60-year-old teen librarians as well as thirtysomethings, and it&#039;s just about being real.

I also agree with the comments above about publicly decrying your local library&#039;s hiring practice.  I&#039;ve sat through (and been rejected by) those &quot;pool&quot; interviews myself and they are awful, but they are what you have.  Be prepared, do what they ask, show your experience, and be polite.  It&#039;s the only way to get hired.  There&#039;s a ton of competition out there and they will find someone who will.  Be yourself, but be the self who is ready with the answers, the modesty, and doesn&#039;t contribute to information overload by answering questions that weren&#039;t asked.  Showing you are excited by the profession, but also willing to start at the bottom and learn from those with more experience will help you get your foot in the door in the right place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meredith, if you&#8217;re still reading this, can I say one thing with all due respect?</p>
<p>If you think the comments here and from AL have been mean-spirited and hurtful, maybe working with teens (or the public in general) isn&#8217;t for you.  I&#8217;ve been a teen librarian, and while it does have its rewards, it also has a lot of bad days when you get cussed out, yelled at, harassed, or just plain ignored.  Speaking as someone who has fought the thin-skinned battle myself, get tough or don&#8217;t try it.  Teens are not always a warm and fuzzy bunch.  They also can spot a phony at a half mile, so whatever you are, be yourself.  I&#8217;ve seen excellent 60-year-old teen librarians as well as thirtysomethings, and it&#8217;s just about being real.</p>
<p>I also agree with the comments above about publicly decrying your local library&#8217;s hiring practice.  I&#8217;ve sat through (and been rejected by) those &#8220;pool&#8221; interviews myself and they are awful, but they are what you have.  Be prepared, do what they ask, show your experience, and be polite.  It&#8217;s the only way to get hired.  There&#8217;s a ton of competition out there and they will find someone who will.  Be yourself, but be the self who is ready with the answers, the modesty, and doesn&#8217;t contribute to information overload by answering questions that weren&#8217;t asked.  Showing you are excited by the profession, but also willing to start at the bottom and learn from those with more experience will help you get your foot in the door in the right place.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha Mickey. You&#039;re a funny guy! You sure got me! I imagine after you posted this you said &quot;Zing!&quot; quietly to yourself, proud of the witty comeback you had just composed. Kudos, my friend, you&#039;ve won this round.

But no, I have no fear of or attraction to Ms. Myers. I&#039;m a married man and father, and she&#039;s simply not my type, no offense to her. I&#039;m admittedly not all that impressed by what I&#039;ve seen of her, but I am certain there is more to her than is displayed in her website and blog. I&#039;m with AL insofar that I don&#039;t think her web presence displays enough substance to make her a potentially great hire for a library, and I sincerely hope she rethinks her strategy to make herself a more attractive candidate. I wish her, and you, well. Now, back to my cheeseburgers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha Mickey. You&#8217;re a funny guy! You sure got me! I imagine after you posted this you said &#8220;Zing!&#8221; quietly to yourself, proud of the witty comeback you had just composed. Kudos, my friend, you&#8217;ve won this round.</p>
<p>But no, I have no fear of or attraction to Ms. Myers. I&#8217;m a married man and father, and she&#8217;s simply not my type, no offense to her. I&#8217;m admittedly not all that impressed by what I&#8217;ve seen of her, but I am certain there is more to her than is displayed in her website and blog. I&#8217;m with AL insofar that I don&#8217;t think her web presence displays enough substance to make her a potentially great hire for a library, and I sincerely hope she rethinks her strategy to make herself a more attractive candidate. I wish her, and you, well. Now, back to my cheeseburgers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Decimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey Decimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey &quot;Fat Guy&quot;-

Yes, I do teach IL courses, and I was voted the best in my state, thank you very much.
I know the &quot;APA Style Guide&quot; backwards and forth, so no need to send...

Are you scared of people like Meredith because they are young and sexy? And you can&#039;t get with them? So you mock them and all that they do?

I got a feeling thats this real &quot;issue&quot; here...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;Fat Guy&#8221;-</p>
<p>Yes, I do teach IL courses, and I was voted the best in my state, thank you very much.<br />
I know the &#8220;APA Style Guide&#8221; backwards and forth, so no need to send&#8230;</p>
<p>Are you scared of people like Meredith because they are young and sexy? And you can&#8217;t get with them? So you mock them and all that they do?</p>
<p>I got a feeling thats this real &#8220;issue&#8221; here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Mickey, I sure hope you don&#039;t teach IL courses, especially the parts about quoting your sources accurately. If you like, post your email address and I&#039;ll send you a copy of the APA Style Guide I use with my students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Mickey, I sure hope you don&#8217;t teach IL courses, especially the parts about quoting your sources accurately. If you like, post your email address and I&#8217;ll send you a copy of the APA Style Guide I use with my students.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Decimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey Decimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you kidding Andrew? Read it all again...First she was all &quot;Blah Blah Blah Im right, Meridith is wrong yada yada yada&quot; and then Meridith posted a reply, then some other people did as well, and then she was all &quot;Im retracting my statement and wishing Meridith all the luck and love in the world blah blah blah yada yada yada&quot;...

Epic! The Annoyed Librarian gets served! And succumbs to the pressure of it all!!! Yes!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding Andrew? Read it all again&#8230;First she was all &#8220;Blah Blah Blah Im right, Meridith is wrong yada yada yada&#8221; and then Meridith posted a reply, then some other people did as well, and then she was all &#8220;Im retracting my statement and wishing Meridith all the luck and love in the world blah blah blah yada yada yada&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Epic! The Annoyed Librarian gets served! And succumbs to the pressure of it all!!! Yes!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read through all of the comments here (quite entertaining, by the by) yet don&#039;t see the spot where the AL ate her words and admitted she was wrong. The closest she comes to anything approaching that is:

&quot;Barbara, you’re obviously quite worked up by now, to judge by your declining grammar, so I’ll let you rest easy. I’m sure no one who read my blog would hire me, except perhaps the Library Journal. 

And I can say with all honesty that I hope that all the new readers she has brought to my meager blog will help her get a job. Really, I do. She’s obviously smart, and has a sense of humor and a knack for promotion that will serve some library well, as I noted before. If she focuses on what she can bring to the library besides hipness, she will no doubt do well.&quot;

That&#039;s not admitting defeat. That&#039;s reiterating the positive points the AL mentioned in her original post. And still no one has answered the question as to whether or not hipness helps in the hiring process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read through all of the comments here (quite entertaining, by the by) yet don&#8217;t see the spot where the AL ate her words and admitted she was wrong. The closest she comes to anything approaching that is:</p>
<p>&#8220;Barbara, you’re obviously quite worked up by now, to judge by your declining grammar, so I’ll let you rest easy. I’m sure no one who read my blog would hire me, except perhaps the Library Journal. </p>
<p>And I can say with all honesty that I hope that all the new readers she has brought to my meager blog will help her get a job. Really, I do. She’s obviously smart, and has a sense of humor and a knack for promotion that will serve some library well, as I noted before. If she focuses on what she can bring to the library besides hipness, she will no doubt do well.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not admitting defeat. That&#8217;s reiterating the positive points the AL mentioned in her original post. And still no one has answered the question as to whether or not hipness helps in the hiring process.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Decimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey Decimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I guess this round went to Meridith, The Stand Up librarian!

I have never seen the Annoyed Librarian eat her words like I did with this blog...And I think it&#039;s great that you admitted you crossed the line.

I read Meridith&#039;s blog, and the girl is brilliant, actually...

So 1 for Meridith, 0 for Annoyed Librarian.

Congrats Meridith!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess this round went to Meridith, The Stand Up librarian!</p>
<p>I have never seen the Annoyed Librarian eat her words like I did with this blog&#8230;And I think it&#8217;s great that you admitted you crossed the line.</p>
<p>I read Meridith&#8217;s blog, and the girl is brilliant, actually&#8230;</p>
<p>So 1 for Meridith, 0 for Annoyed Librarian.</p>
<p>Congrats Meridith!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, the comments here were really needlessly cruel, and attacked a person in our profession personally instead of just an annoying concept or stereotype. I&#039;m fairly new to Annoyed Librarian and have enjoyed it thus far. After reading this entry and the comments though, I find myself wondering if I should just remove AL from my RSS feed. Not very classy, folks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the comments here were really needlessly cruel, and attacked a person in our profession personally instead of just an annoying concept or stereotype. I&#8217;m fairly new to Annoyed Librarian and have enjoyed it thus far. After reading this entry and the comments though, I find myself wondering if I should just remove AL from my RSS feed. Not very classy, folks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The above was taken from the my friend, the Children&#039;s Librarian, when I posed these questions to her.  I accidentally hit the wrong button before I had a chance to indicate this. If you will apply these ideas, you have a much better chance of landing that first job.  But it&#039;s really tough right now.  Best wishes and luck to you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above was taken from the my friend, the Children&#8217;s Librarian, when I posed these questions to her.  I accidentally hit the wrong button before I had a chance to indicate this. If you will apply these ideas, you have a much better chance of landing that first job.  But it&#8217;s really tough right now.  Best wishes and luck to you!</p>
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