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		<title>By: LaVergne</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34225</link>
		<dc:creator>LaVergne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 03:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Hamilton:

This is my 3rd moderated comment, so it’s not ensured to reach you (but nevertheless...):

    The Oxford doc also references BM STC French (but only up to 1700), which is why I believe that your sojourn should be continued via McGill, whose staff can well direct you towards the supplements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hamilton:</p>
<p>This is my 3rd moderated comment, so it’s not ensured to reach you (but nevertheless&#8230;):</p>
<p>    The Oxford doc also references BM STC French (but only up to 1700), which is why I believe that your sojourn should be continued via McGill, whose staff can well direct you towards the supplements.</p>
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		<title>By: LaVergne</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34223</link>
		<dc:creator>LaVergne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 03:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Hamilton:
This is my 3rd moderated comment, so it&#039;s not ensured to reach you  (for, I suspect.s than honourable purposes, but nevertheless..):

The Oxford doc also references BM STC French (but only up to 1700), which is why I believe that your sojourn should be continued via McGill, whose staff can well direct you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hamilton:<br />
This is my 3rd moderated comment, so it&#8217;s not ensured to reach you  (for, I suspect.s than honourable purposes, but nevertheless..):</p>
<p>The Oxford doc also references BM STC French (but only up to 1700), which is why I believe that your sojourn should be continued via McGill, whose staff can well direct you.</p>
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		<title>By: LaVergne</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34221</link>
		<dc:creator>LaVergne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 03:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Hamilton:

Because my information is being &quot;moderated&quot;, my comments are not being read &quot;in real time&quot;. 

I directed you to the Oxford doc as a lead-in to the HPB and the ETSC French databases. Beyond that is the ARTFL exploration, accessible via McGill, along with its comprehensive archives of 18th-century publishers and printers. The strength of McGill&#039;s Rare Books and Special Coolections is its 18th-century data. ARTFL is accessible via McGill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hamilton:</p>
<p>Because my information is being &#8220;moderated&#8221;, my comments are not being read &#8220;in real time&#8221;. </p>
<p>I directed you to the Oxford doc as a lead-in to the HPB and the ETSC French databases. Beyond that is the ARTFL exploration, accessible via McGill, along with its comprehensive archives of 18th-century publishers and printers. The strength of McGill&#8217;s Rare Books and Special Coolections is its 18th-century data. ARTFL is accessible via McGill.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34214</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I must have misdirected the question.  I had tried asking this question through the &quot;normal&quot; channels for reference questions, but no one seems to know what ESTC is and what it does except for my colleagues who study book history and bibliography.  So I thought I&#039;d try here because I thought this blog was read by some university librarians. I must have misunderstood - sorry for the intrusion!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I must have misdirected the question.  I had tried asking this question through the &#8220;normal&#8221; channels for reference questions, but no one seems to know what ESTC is and what it does except for my colleagues who study book history and bibliography.  So I thought I&#8217;d try here because I thought this blog was read by some university librarians. I must have misunderstood &#8211; sorry for the intrusion!</p>
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		<title>By: The One and Only Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>The One and Only Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AL--the link to the apology isn&#039;t working. Coincidence?

And what is that exchange about above? Can&#039;t we all play nicely?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AL&#8211;the link to the apology isn&#8217;t working. Coincidence?</p>
<p>And what is that exchange about above? Can&#8217;t we all play nicely?</p>
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		<title>By: LaVergne</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34198</link>
		<dc:creator>LaVergne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 18:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Spencer:

The Bodleian link directs the requester to the Hand Press Books database.

More than 330 institutions subscribe to the ARTFL database; I would expect the requester to be savvy enough to submit an ILL request. Why you would reference the philogic beta release link while bypassing the preceding SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION tab is questionable.

Lastly, I referenced - with specificity - McGill&#039;s French collection - distinguished for its 18th century holdings within its Rare Books and Special Collections. Here, again, I would expect the researcher to be savvy enough to take it from there, even if you weren&#039;t.   

Pardon me, now, for not further indulging your ineptitude; I shan&#039;t pursue this with you. I&#039;m off to fold a protein. 

Besides which, I don&#039;t work for free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Spencer:</p>
<p>The Bodleian link directs the requester to the Hand Press Books database.</p>
<p>More than 330 institutions subscribe to the ARTFL database; I would expect the requester to be savvy enough to submit an ILL request. Why you would reference the philogic beta release link while bypassing the preceding SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION tab is questionable.</p>
<p>Lastly, I referenced &#8211; with specificity &#8211; McGill&#8217;s French collection &#8211; distinguished for its 18th century holdings within its Rare Books and Special Collections. Here, again, I would expect the researcher to be savvy enough to take it from there, even if you weren&#8217;t.   </p>
<p>Pardon me, now, for not further indulging your ineptitude; I shan&#8217;t pursue this with you. I&#8217;m off to fold a protein. </p>
<p>Besides which, I don&#8217;t work for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34193</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 16:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Premproposse, 

and quickly followed with the intended link.  It is a collaborative effort.  PremproPosse= anonymous jackass?  honto ni.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Premproposse, </p>
<p>and quickly followed with the intended link.  It is a collaborative effort.  PremproPosse= anonymous jackass?  honto ni.</p>
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		<title>By: PremproPosse</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34190</link>
		<dc:creator>PremproPosse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 15:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Army&#039;s second #refSoS attempt disseminated, then retracted, a wrong link. SOS = Stuck on Stupid? Oy vey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Army&#8217;s second #refSoS attempt disseminated, then retracted, a wrong link. SOS = Stuck on Stupid? Oy vey.</p>
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		<title>By: Rant Howard</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/11/my-mind-unblown/comment-page-1/#comment-34188</link>
		<dc:creator>Rant Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 14:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There goes any and all motivation to join a librarian listserv. As someone in the linked thread asked, do you treat each other like this in person at the conference?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There goes any and all motivation to join a librarian listserv. As someone in the linked thread asked, do you treat each other like this in person at the conference?</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 14:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LaVergne,

First, let me say that I don&#039;t take offense at your slight, but I do take offense at your reference work.  While I was off by a span of a hundred years give or take, you gave him (assuming gender, hamilton, sorry) links that:
OFFER NOTHING he&#039;s looking for (http://www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/60573/RareBks.pdf)
Restrict access to subscription users only (http://artflx.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3t?dbname=frantext0509&amp;word=cow&amp;CONJUNCT=PHRASE&amp;DISTANCE=2&amp;PROXY=or+fewer&amp;OUTPUT=conc&amp;author=&amp;title=&amp;date=&amp;genre=&amp;sortorder=date%2C+author&amp;DFPERIOD=1&amp;POLESPAN=5&amp;THMPRTLIMIT=1&amp;KWSS=1&amp;KWSSPRLIM=500&amp;trsortorder=author%2C+title)

and

Tells him that there&#039;s a university that has a series of special collections (http://www.mcgill.ca/library/library-using/policies/collection/french/)

Hamilton, I hope that&#039;s something you WERE looking for,or have a subscription to, and I hope you have an idea of how to use it, but I call that a REFERENCE FAIL.  (equal to mine, as you pointed out.

However, I will not mock your reference skills as equivilant to pissing desperate cows or somesuch nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaVergne,</p>
<p>First, let me say that I don&#8217;t take offense at your slight, but I do take offense at your reference work.  While I was off by a span of a hundred years give or take, you gave him (assuming gender, hamilton, sorry) links that:<br />
OFFER NOTHING he&#8217;s looking for (<a href="http://www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/60573/RareBks.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/60573/RareBks.pdf</a>)<br />
Restrict access to subscription users only (<a href="http://artflx.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3t?dbname=frantext0509&#038;word=cow&#038;CONJUNCT=PHRASE&#038;DISTANCE=2&#038;PROXY=or+fewer&#038;OUTPUT=conc&#038;author=&#038;title=&#038;date=&#038;genre=&#038;sortorder=date%2C+author&#038;DFPERIOD=1&#038;POLESPAN=5&#038;THMPRTLIMIT=1&#038;KWSS=1&#038;KWSSPRLIM=500&#038;trsortorder=author%2C+title" rel="nofollow">http://artflx.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3t?dbname=frantext0509&#038;word=cow&#038;CONJUNCT=PHRASE&#038;DISTANCE=2&#038;PROXY=or+fewer&#038;OUTPUT=conc&#038;author=&#038;title=&#038;date=&#038;genre=&#038;sortorder=date%2C+author&#038;DFPERIOD=1&#038;POLESPAN=5&#038;THMPRTLIMIT=1&#038;KWSS=1&#038;KWSSPRLIM=500&#038;trsortorder=author%2C+title</a>)</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Tells him that there&#8217;s a university that has a series of special collections (<a href="http://www.mcgill.ca/library/library-using/policies/collection/french/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcgill.ca/library/library-using/policies/collection/french/</a>)</p>
<p>Hamilton, I hope that&#8217;s something you WERE looking for,or have a subscription to, and I hope you have an idea of how to use it, but I call that a REFERENCE FAIL.  (equal to mine, as you pointed out.</p>
<p>However, I will not mock your reference skills as equivilant to pissing desperate cows or somesuch nonsense.</p>
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