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	<title>Comments on: Libraries, Literacy, and the Poor</title>
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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Desiree Sotomayor</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/23/libraries-literacy-and-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-34831</link>
		<dc:creator>Desiree Sotomayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 04:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that public libraries will almost always have nicer selections &amp; hours in more affluent areas, though I really do want to believe that we have the potential for reaching out to those in need and connecting them with valuable resources. Here is where aspects like community partnerships, understanding the user population&#039;s needs and innovative programming are so important. I was  very impressed with the Free Library of Philadelphia&#039;s H.O.M.E. page cafe, which provides employment opportunities in the library for formerly homeless individuals (http://www.projecthome.org/cafe/homepage.php).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that public libraries will almost always have nicer selections &amp; hours in more affluent areas, though I really do want to believe that we have the potential for reaching out to those in need and connecting them with valuable resources. Here is where aspects like community partnerships, understanding the user population&#8217;s needs and innovative programming are so important. I was  very impressed with the Free Library of Philadelphia&#8217;s H.O.M.E. page cafe, which provides employment opportunities in the library for formerly homeless individuals (<a href="http://www.projecthome.org/cafe/homepage.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.projecthome.org/cafe/homepage.php</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As obvious at may seem that poor kids have less stuff then rich kids, it&#039;s important to document that are repeat that.  It helps overcome the bogus meme that the problems of poor kids are just because their parents are lazy, or their teacher&#039;s ineffective, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As obvious at may seem that poor kids have less stuff then rich kids, it&#8217;s important to document that are repeat that.  It helps overcome the bogus meme that the problems of poor kids are just because their parents are lazy, or their teacher&#8217;s ineffective, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Soren Faust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soren Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a public librarian in the Baltimore City (Enoch Pratt) system. Our system is exceptionally active in the community, both affluent and poor. Our funding is as good as one can expect in this economy; and, our offerings, such as children&#039;s programs, business and financial literacy programs, along with cultural events are excellent and continually praised by the community of Baltimore. 

The public library, our library, however, can only do so much. It has always  been this way, in fact. You can have 20 book mobiles cruising through poor areas, but if the parents in those areas are not readers, don&#039;t own books, and see no real benefit in learning for its own sake, then the library can only do so much to fill in the gap and help solve the problem of illiteracy. I read recently that Detroit suffers now from a 50% rate of illiteracy. That&#039;s astonishing and hardly something the public library system can handle on its own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a public librarian in the Baltimore City (Enoch Pratt) system. Our system is exceptionally active in the community, both affluent and poor. Our funding is as good as one can expect in this economy; and, our offerings, such as children&#8217;s programs, business and financial literacy programs, along with cultural events are excellent and continually praised by the community of Baltimore. </p>
<p>The public library, our library, however, can only do so much. It has always  been this way, in fact. You can have 20 book mobiles cruising through poor areas, but if the parents in those areas are not readers, don&#8217;t own books, and see no real benefit in learning for its own sake, then the library can only do so much to fill in the gap and help solve the problem of illiteracy. I read recently that Detroit suffers now from a 50% rate of illiteracy. That&#8217;s astonishing and hardly something the public library system can handle on its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/05/23/libraries-literacy-and-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-34596</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jeff, 

It wasn&#039;t personally insulting you.  I was simply making a statement (and I believe a true one) on the state of public libraries.  They are dying.  They need to be replaced with better services/different services.  They need to be reassessed and something else to take their place.  Small storefront computer labs, neighborhood bookswaps, community centers, etc.

Also, I AM a public librarian who works in economically depressed areas.  I live what this article is talking about EVERY DAY.  This isn&#039;t something libraries can fix- at least not in their current state.  There needs to be, ,at least, open discussion as to what can address these problems where the library has failed MISERABLY- without being offended or feeling personally insulted.

The fact is, you can work really hard to save a sinking ship and go down with it or you can figure out how to save all the people without saving the ship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff, </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t personally insulting you.  I was simply making a statement (and I believe a true one) on the state of public libraries.  They are dying.  They need to be replaced with better services/different services.  They need to be reassessed and something else to take their place.  Small storefront computer labs, neighborhood bookswaps, community centers, etc.</p>
<p>Also, I AM a public librarian who works in economically depressed areas.  I live what this article is talking about EVERY DAY.  This isn&#8217;t something libraries can fix- at least not in their current state.  There needs to be, ,at least, open discussion as to what can address these problems where the library has failed MISERABLY- without being offended or feeling personally insulted.</p>
<p>The fact is, you can work really hard to save a sinking ship and go down with it or you can figure out how to save all the people without saving the ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabagoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabagoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 19:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do public libraries have to maintain a physical presence everywhere? My hometown, Seattle, had bookmobile service that served the elderly, handicapped, and disadvantaged kids, but they are getting rid of it. Not trendy enough. And, it is a focus of facilities over service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do public libraries have to maintain a physical presence everywhere? My hometown, Seattle, had bookmobile service that served the elderly, handicapped, and disadvantaged kids, but they are getting rid of it. Not trendy enough. And, it is a focus of facilities over service.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 18:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What we actually could use on the computers are some tech people or volunteers with more time to help the very technologically uninitiated. For the rest, I like to believe that, more than Apple-type people in kiosks, trained librarians have a mission to help people succuessfully navigate today&#039;s challenging information environment, and that environment now includes print media and computers, as well as digital library materials accessed on electronic readers and other handheld devices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we actually could use on the computers are some tech people or volunteers with more time to help the very technologically uninitiated. For the rest, I like to believe that, more than Apple-type people in kiosks, trained librarians have a mission to help people succuessfully navigate today&#8217;s challenging information environment, and that environment now includes print media and computers, as well as digital library materials accessed on electronic readers and other handheld devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Kramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kimber, re: &quot;It seems to be insinuated that libraries in poor areas should stay open later and provide greater access simply because they are in poor areas. But if people aren’t using the facilities in the first place, then that is just a waste of time and money.&quot;

A library being open late in a poor area means that young people have a place to hang out that is safe, or at least, safer than the streets. Just being able to exist without fear is a huge benefit to a child. A library can also serve as an &quot;enriched environment&quot; for young people, with access to toys, games and craft supplies the kids normally wouldn&#039;t have access to, as well as the usual books and internet.

I would also like to point out that, if people aren&#039;t using the library, the library needs to step up with marketing and relevant programs and services. Poor people don&#039;t go to libraries because they think libraries have nothing to offer them. It&#039;s our resposibility to demonstrate that this is not the case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kimber, re: &#8220;It seems to be insinuated that libraries in poor areas should stay open later and provide greater access simply because they are in poor areas. But if people aren’t using the facilities in the first place, then that is just a waste of time and money.&#8221;</p>
<p>A library being open late in a poor area means that young people have a place to hang out that is safe, or at least, safer than the streets. Just being able to exist without fear is a huge benefit to a child. A library can also serve as an &#8220;enriched environment&#8221; for young people, with access to toys, games and craft supplies the kids normally wouldn&#8217;t have access to, as well as the usual books and internet.</p>
<p>I would also like to point out that, if people aren&#8217;t using the library, the library needs to step up with marketing and relevant programs and services. Poor people don&#8217;t go to libraries because they think libraries have nothing to offer them. It&#8217;s our resposibility to demonstrate that this is not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: public librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>public librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 16:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My comments:

1. The libraries in the poorer communities probably had less circulation than those in the wealthier communities. Staffing and hours are determined by circulation, hence the cuts in hours and probably staff.
2.Fewer staff members means less outreach to kids in school, parents at neighborhood events, etc., so fewer people are aware of the benefits of the library.
3. Many card holders probably owe too much in fines, so can&#039;t use their card to check out books.
4. How convenient are  the branches in the poorer neighborhoods? Are they close to transportation, parking, etc? Do they have adequent security so that people feel safe?
5. Philly probably buys on a system-wide basis, so the branches should be getting some new books even if not as many as the busier branches.
6. Are the poorer branches offering programs relavent to the community - computer classes, resumer classes, etc?
7. The poorer branches may not have book drops because the book drops had been vandalized in the past, and it was safer to eliminate them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comments:</p>
<p>1. The libraries in the poorer communities probably had less circulation than those in the wealthier communities. Staffing and hours are determined by circulation, hence the cuts in hours and probably staff.<br />
2.Fewer staff members means less outreach to kids in school, parents at neighborhood events, etc., so fewer people are aware of the benefits of the library.<br />
3. Many card holders probably owe too much in fines, so can&#8217;t use their card to check out books.<br />
4. How convenient are  the branches in the poorer neighborhoods? Are they close to transportation, parking, etc? Do they have adequent security so that people feel safe?<br />
5. Philly probably buys on a system-wide basis, so the branches should be getting some new books even if not as many as the busier branches.<br />
6. Are the poorer branches offering programs relavent to the community &#8211; computer classes, resumer classes, etc?<br />
7. The poorer branches may not have book drops because the book drops had been vandalized in the past, and it was safer to eliminate them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 16:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think you might want to go ahead and give up on public libraries. We need to think about what we’re going to replace them with.&quot;

I don&#039;t know whether you&#039;re a librarian or not but this kind of blanket statement is extremely insulting to people who are working hard to make public libraries better and it reflects the dangerous ignorance that&#039;s being used to justify slashing public library budgets at a time when they could be doing the most good. 

It&#039;s fair to criticize the FLP for its hours and book drops but it&#039;s not as though we&#039;re making no impact at all. The library just underwent a major study to examine its real impact on the community and you can find the results here: http://www.freelibrary.org/about/felsstudy.htm

Again, criticism leveled from a place of ignorance can easily turn into harmful rhetoric that belittles the good work that the library is doing each and every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think you might want to go ahead and give up on public libraries. We need to think about what we’re going to replace them with.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;re a librarian or not but this kind of blanket statement is extremely insulting to people who are working hard to make public libraries better and it reflects the dangerous ignorance that&#8217;s being used to justify slashing public library budgets at a time when they could be doing the most good. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s fair to criticize the FLP for its hours and book drops but it&#8217;s not as though we&#8217;re making no impact at all. The library just underwent a major study to examine its real impact on the community and you can find the results here: <a href="http://www.freelibrary.org/about/felsstudy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.freelibrary.org/about/felsstudy.htm</a></p>
<p>Again, criticism leveled from a place of ignorance can easily turn into harmful rhetoric that belittles the good work that the library is doing each and every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 16:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tina

Our computers are used all day every day- but much less often for job applications than games, facebook (even myspace still), etc.

Why don&#039;t we just put computer labs in small storefronts throughout the area and staff them with tech people, or people like the Apple store has, for way less money.  Surely that would meet that need at less of a burden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tina</p>
<p>Our computers are used all day every day- but much less often for job applications than games, facebook (even myspace still), etc.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we just put computer labs in small storefronts throughout the area and staff them with tech people, or people like the Apple store has, for way less money.  Surely that would meet that need at less of a burden.</p>
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