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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Crystal Hammon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal Hammon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Annoyed Librarian, We owe you a sincere thank you and apology. First, thanks for mentioning the search for America&#039;s Most Glamourous Librarian in your post. We got a nice lift from that. Lots of new visitors and participants. Plus a circle of new friends who are willing to talk about silly+serious things that matter to our profession...beyond our image problem. (And it is a problem.) After reviewing the link that annoyed you, we can see your point. Although that link makes attribution and comments on your post, we should have burrowed down further and linked to YOUR original post. To be honest, we did not search beyond the post we linked to originally. Now that we have, please accept our sincerest apologies for failing to notice the obvious. We&#039;ve updated the link with your post and plan to make that correction public in a future post. As for the topic, I guess we&#039;re still in different camps. I&#039;ll never tire of talking about ways we can avoid being shoved aside and discounted. You asked if other professions had the same obsession with appearance or what I would call professional attire. Probably not. Perhaps they haven&#039;t needed to. Thanks for your thoughtful post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Annoyed Librarian, We owe you a sincere thank you and apology. First, thanks for mentioning the search for America&#8217;s Most Glamourous Librarian in your post. We got a nice lift from that. Lots of new visitors and participants. Plus a circle of new friends who are willing to talk about silly+serious things that matter to our profession&#8230;beyond our image problem. (And it is a problem.) After reviewing the link that annoyed you, we can see your point. Although that link makes attribution and comments on your post, we should have burrowed down further and linked to YOUR original post. To be honest, we did not search beyond the post we linked to originally. Now that we have, please accept our sincerest apologies for failing to notice the obvious. We&#8217;ve updated the link with your post and plan to make that correction public in a future post. As for the topic, I guess we&#8217;re still in different camps. I&#8217;ll never tire of talking about ways we can avoid being shoved aside and discounted. You asked if other professions had the same obsession with appearance or what I would call professional attire. Probably not. Perhaps they haven&#8217;t needed to. Thanks for your thoughtful post.</p>
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		<title>By: A Canadian librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Canadian librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ПАН БІБЛІОТЕКАР (or Mister Librarian) in a East Slavic (Ukrainian) version:

Be nice and polite. I am quite sure that your professors taught you that, as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ПАН БІБЛІОТЕКАР (or Mister Librarian) in a East Slavic (Ukrainian) version:</p>
<p>Be nice and polite. I am quite sure that your professors taught you that, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Techserving you,

um, what? 
I&#039;ve worked at a bazillion libraries: academic, special  and have also worked as a contractor inside public libraries.  They all come in different shapes, sorts, sizes, plumbing, flavors, and income brackets. Seriously, your unnamed Ivy League must have  a sickly bunch; thankfully they were all rounded up and kept in one spot. Hopefully they are getting the medical attention they need?

sincerely,

one of the tan, skinny ones]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Techserving you,</p>
<p>um, what?<br />
I&#8217;ve worked at a bazillion libraries: academic, special  and have also worked as a contractor inside public libraries.  They all come in different shapes, sorts, sizes, plumbing, flavors, and income brackets. Seriously, your unnamed Ivy League must have  a sickly bunch; thankfully they were all rounded up and kept in one spot. Hopefully they are getting the medical attention they need?</p>
<p>sincerely,</p>
<p>one of the tan, skinny ones</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just one last random comment only very marginally related to librarian image...

About 10 years ago, in one of my earliest library jobs (a paraprofessional position at an unnamed Ivy League university) a colleague commented to me that there are virtually no librarians of normal weight.  He didn&#039;t mean they were all fat - he pointed out that most seemed to be either freakishly skinny, or obese.  &quot;Freakishly skinny&quot; does not mean supermodel-esque, but rather unhealthily thin, often with a grey pallor... not just old ladies and men, but younger women who look like little old ladies. 

Now, having worked at several libraries and attended several ALA conventions, this seems to be true.  Has anyone else noticed this?  It is true that if you take a cross-section of the general US population the majority will be fat.  This is something somewhat different.

And has anyone noticed the large number of handicapped librarians?  I am by no means knocking handicapped people, as I have one in my immediate family.  But the number of people in wheelchairs or with canes or riding around on rascals (motorized scooters) seems disproportionately high.  Why would this be?  Why is the make-up of a cross-section of librarians not similar to that of other professions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one last random comment only very marginally related to librarian image&#8230;</p>
<p>About 10 years ago, in one of my earliest library jobs (a paraprofessional position at an unnamed Ivy League university) a colleague commented to me that there are virtually no librarians of normal weight.  He didn&#8217;t mean they were all fat &#8211; he pointed out that most seemed to be either freakishly skinny, or obese.  &#8220;Freakishly skinny&#8221; does not mean supermodel-esque, but rather unhealthily thin, often with a grey pallor&#8230; not just old ladies and men, but younger women who look like little old ladies. </p>
<p>Now, having worked at several libraries and attended several ALA conventions, this seems to be true.  Has anyone else noticed this?  It is true that if you take a cross-section of the general US population the majority will be fat.  This is something somewhat different.</p>
<p>And has anyone noticed the large number of handicapped librarians?  I am by no means knocking handicapped people, as I have one in my immediate family.  But the number of people in wheelchairs or with canes or riding around on rascals (motorized scooters) seems disproportionately high.  Why would this be?  Why is the make-up of a cross-section of librarians not similar to that of other professions?</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To clarify... ALA had a talk on librarian image.  (Obviously.)  It was called &quot;Not so Extreme Makeovers.&quot;  I did not attend that section so it&#039;s unclear about whether it acknowledged that many librarians have no style and look like homeless people, and aimed to &quot;fix&quot; the problem, or whether the focus was more on librarian image, but either way, there is a problem that a section like that was needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify&#8230; ALA had a talk on librarian image.  (Obviously.)  It was called &#8220;Not so Extreme Makeovers.&#8221;  I did not attend that section so it&#8217;s unclear about whether it acknowledged that many librarians have no style and look like homeless people, and aimed to &#8220;fix&#8221; the problem, or whether the focus was more on librarian image, but either way, there is a problem that a section like that was needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I only skimmed this, but I had to comment on the first parts of the post because the topic is one which drives me up the wall.  NO, other professions are not obsessed with their image.  In another life I was in law school and got some sort of free ABA magazine for young lawyers.  Yes, there were articles on professional dress, because most new lawyers are new to the world of professional work in general.  That was the extent of the focus on image.  The focus was on looking professional, not on how others perceive lawyers.  Would the ABA have a talk on attorney image at their conference, the way the ALA did in 2010?  Doubtful.  

Along these lines, that stupid column in American Libraries called &quot;How the World Views Us&quot; (or something like that) which basically reprints ANY and EVERY instance of someone else mentioning the word &quot;library&quot; is so ridiculous and so desperate.  Some librarians get all excited if anyone else even recognizes the existence of libraries or librarians.  It&#039;s pitiful.

And this whole tattooed librarian thing (in general, not just that piece) is obnoxious.  I&#039;ve written this before, but we seem to be replacing one stereotype with another.  Can&#039;t we just try to be a normal profession with the normal range of people?  Nerdy, average, hip, cool, outdoorsy, whatever?  It&#039;s ridiculous and desperate to try to paint librarians as &quot;hipsters&quot;.  It also excludes just as many people as the traditional stereotype does.  I&#039;m a normal person who looks normal... attractive but not stunningly gorgeous... healthy, fit, normal weight, wear normal clothes from a variety of stores... not someone anyone would assume from appearance to be a librarian, not someone anyone would call a &quot;hipster,&quot; just a typical early-mid 30s woman one would assume was some kind of a white collar worker.  That&#039;s it.  We can probably &quot;smash stereotypes&quot; by looking NORMAL and blending with the rest of the population. We don&#039;t need to embrace weird or consciously try to smash stereotypes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I only skimmed this, but I had to comment on the first parts of the post because the topic is one which drives me up the wall.  NO, other professions are not obsessed with their image.  In another life I was in law school and got some sort of free ABA magazine for young lawyers.  Yes, there were articles on professional dress, because most new lawyers are new to the world of professional work in general.  That was the extent of the focus on image.  The focus was on looking professional, not on how others perceive lawyers.  Would the ABA have a talk on attorney image at their conference, the way the ALA did in 2010?  Doubtful.  </p>
<p>Along these lines, that stupid column in American Libraries called &#8220;How the World Views Us&#8221; (or something like that) which basically reprints ANY and EVERY instance of someone else mentioning the word &#8220;library&#8221; is so ridiculous and so desperate.  Some librarians get all excited if anyone else even recognizes the existence of libraries or librarians.  It&#8217;s pitiful.</p>
<p>And this whole tattooed librarian thing (in general, not just that piece) is obnoxious.  I&#8217;ve written this before, but we seem to be replacing one stereotype with another.  Can&#8217;t we just try to be a normal profession with the normal range of people?  Nerdy, average, hip, cool, outdoorsy, whatever?  It&#8217;s ridiculous and desperate to try to paint librarians as &#8220;hipsters&#8221;.  It also excludes just as many people as the traditional stereotype does.  I&#8217;m a normal person who looks normal&#8230; attractive but not stunningly gorgeous&#8230; healthy, fit, normal weight, wear normal clothes from a variety of stores&#8230; not someone anyone would assume from appearance to be a librarian, not someone anyone would call a &#8220;hipster,&#8221; just a typical early-mid 30s woman one would assume was some kind of a white collar worker.  That&#8217;s it.  We can probably &#8220;smash stereotypes&#8221; by looking NORMAL and blending with the rest of the population. We don&#8217;t need to embrace weird or consciously try to smash stereotypes.</p>
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		<title>By: Scare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem to talk about pornography in almost every post now - I think you may have a problem. Others may publish crap on smashing stereotypes but you are now doing the same for porn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to talk about pornography in almost every post now &#8211; I think you may have a problem. Others may publish crap on smashing stereotypes but you are now doing the same for porn.</p>
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		<title>By: joneser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joneser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guess I&#039;ll never be cool, or smash any stereotypes.  I refuse to get a tattoo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess I&#8217;ll never be cool, or smash any stereotypes.  I refuse to get a tattoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Frieda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frieda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jt- Yes i would like to contact you. just post a link for your website. than i will definitely do that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jt- Yes i would like to contact you. just post a link for your website. than i will definitely do that.</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frieda - I have a Namibian friend who is looking to help some people at a public library in the north of the country so I am collecting some information for her - their reference service is not good.  I&#039;d be curious about your experience - if you want you can contact me via my website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frieda &#8211; I have a Namibian friend who is looking to help some people at a public library in the north of the country so I am collecting some information for her &#8211; their reference service is not good.  I&#8217;d be curious about your experience &#8211; if you want you can contact me via my website.</p>
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