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	<title>Comments on: Libraries: Target Whining Cheapskates!</title>
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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Jawja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jawja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This doesn&#039;t work in the public libraries I&#039;ve worked for-- donated DVDs don&#039;t come along with permission to distribute them in the manner that libraries do, so circulating donated DVDs is not a legal option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t work in the public libraries I&#8217;ve worked for&#8211; donated DVDs don&#8217;t come along with permission to distribute them in the manner that libraries do, so circulating donated DVDs is not a legal option.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 03:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is now even more of our DVD&#039;s will be stolen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is now even more of our DVD&#8217;s will be stolen!</p>
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		<title>By: joneser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joneser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good luck with getting taxpayer support for &quot;content curation, cultivation, and access&quot;.  Seriously.  

Libraries ARE the #1 provider of FREE content.  For EVERYONE, and not just &quot;society&#039;s leaders and innovators&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with getting taxpayer support for &#8220;content curation, cultivation, and access&#8221;.  Seriously.  </p>
<p>Libraries ARE the #1 provider of FREE content.  For EVERYONE, and not just &#8220;society&#8217;s leaders and innovators&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randal Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Jean Costello that libraries should focus on their core competency, “content curation, cultivation and access”.  I think that there is plenty of latent demand for high quality research materials, literature, and art.  Even if there is not much demand, someone should at least be providing this service for society’s leaders and innovators.

Part of the problem is that school libraries, and to some extent academic libraries, have done a poor job of providing the average person with a broad and clear understanding of how to find authoritative information using libraries, government databases, and other tools.
Despite a lot of money being spent on information literacy, most people are confused about how to find good information, so they try Google and take what it gives them, or they give up.
  
Another part of the problem is that libraries have not marketed their services with the sophistication of private enterprise.  A person’s conscious awareness can only juggle so many competing impulses at one time, and a low key service is not likely to occupy a strong position.  This is kind of the problem with garden food: no one has an incentive to convince the public to plant their own organic gardens, even though people would be better off eating fresh organic vegetables out of their own gardens.  There are plenty of advertisements, though, for soda, burgers, and cereal made of sugar.

If ALA wanted to regain some relevance, one way to do that would be a really good national advertising campaign for libraries.  I’m not talking about putting more READ posters in libraries.  I’m talking about Internet, magazine, and television advertisements that are quirky, fun, and polished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jean Costello that libraries should focus on their core competency, “content curation, cultivation and access”.  I think that there is plenty of latent demand for high quality research materials, literature, and art.  Even if there is not much demand, someone should at least be providing this service for society’s leaders and innovators.</p>
<p>Part of the problem is that school libraries, and to some extent academic libraries, have done a poor job of providing the average person with a broad and clear understanding of how to find authoritative information using libraries, government databases, and other tools.<br />
Despite a lot of money being spent on information literacy, most people are confused about how to find good information, so they try Google and take what it gives them, or they give up.</p>
<p>Another part of the problem is that libraries have not marketed their services with the sophistication of private enterprise.  A person’s conscious awareness can only juggle so many competing impulses at one time, and a low key service is not likely to occupy a strong position.  This is kind of the problem with garden food: no one has an incentive to convince the public to plant their own organic gardens, even though people would be better off eating fresh organic vegetables out of their own gardens.  There are plenty of advertisements, though, for soda, burgers, and cereal made of sugar.</p>
<p>If ALA wanted to regain some relevance, one way to do that would be a really good national advertising campaign for libraries.  I’m not talking about putting more READ posters in libraries.  I’m talking about Internet, magazine, and television advertisements that are quirky, fun, and polished.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bethany,

Have you seen the stats on people who smoke, are fat, and gamble?  They are overwhelmingly NOT the socioeconomic elite.

Also, I have to say again that it&#039;s GREAT to see other people in the profession post things that I&#039;ve been thinking since I got in the game, but can&#039;t find anyone else around me to act on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bethany,</p>
<p>Have you seen the stats on people who smoke, are fat, and gamble?  They are overwhelmingly NOT the socioeconomic elite.</p>
<p>Also, I have to say again that it&#8217;s GREAT to see other people in the profession post things that I&#8217;ve been thinking since I got in the game, but can&#8217;t find anyone else around me to act on!</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If the truly poor get Netflix, then skip a McDonald’s meal or a pack of cigarettes or a couple of lottery tickets a month and the increase is covered.&quot;
So in your opinion poor people = fat smokers who gamble. Seriously?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the truly poor get Netflix, then skip a McDonald’s meal or a pack of cigarettes or a couple of lottery tickets a month and the increase is covered.&#8221;<br />
So in your opinion poor people = fat smokers who gamble. Seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We reduced our plan from the two DVDs and streaming to one DVD and streaming. That will only jack our rates up a few bucks and truthfully, we use  the streaming more so than the DVDs.  

It is cheaper than cable, less of a hassle than the Redbox/video rental store, and more comfy than the movie theatre.

The only real issue I have is that the separate plans are not equal in their movie offerings: some are only in DVD format, so a lot of us cheapos are subscribing to both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We reduced our plan from the two DVDs and streaming to one DVD and streaming. That will only jack our rates up a few bucks and truthfully, we use  the streaming more so than the DVDs.  </p>
<p>It is cheaper than cable, less of a hassle than the Redbox/video rental store, and more comfy than the movie theatre.</p>
<p>The only real issue I have is that the separate plans are not equal in their movie offerings: some are only in DVD format, so a lot of us cheapos are subscribing to both.</p>
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		<title>By: Techserving You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techserving You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 02:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If the truly poor get Netflix, then skip a McDonald’s meal or a pack of cigarettes or a couple of lottery tickets a month and the increase is covered.&quot;

Tee hee hee.  

Anyway, I don&#039;t usually complain about these things, but if you&#039;re someone (like me) who has only set up a Netflix account in the past year, you don&#039;t think of the current set up as &quot;one DVD at a time and FREE unlimited streaming&quot; - you think of it as $9.99 for the service which has always been in place since you&#039;ve been a Netflix member - one DVD at a time, and unlimited streaming.  Not &quot;free&quot;.  I didn&#039;t go from getting a DVD at a time for $9.99 a month to getting that AND unlimited streaming - the deal I chose was, from the beginning, $9.99 for both services.  I&#039;m one of those people who don&#039;t watch many DVDs, hence the one DVD at a time plan - I really tend to think of it as $9.99 for streaming with the option for an occasional DVD.  Some months, I don&#039;t get any DVDs at all.  But I do want the OPTION of getting a DVD now and then (and don&#039;t want to deal with Redbox and finding a time to return a movie on time).  That was why this current plan worked well.  I don&#039;t really want to pay $7.99 for each service.  It&#039;s not that $16 / month is that much - $6.00 extra is nothing.  It&#039;s that it&#039;s a 60% price increase all of a sudden and I feel like there is now less flexibility.  And if you&#039;re a new member, the fact that Netflix hasn&#039;t raised their prices in ages is meaningless.

My husband is so outraged he wants to have TWO accounts - one for Netflix for streaming and one for Blockbuster, which apparently plans to undercut the Netflix DVD price by a buck or two.  Now HE is being ridiculous.  I&#039;ll suck it up and pay the extra amount, it&#039;s just annoying.  I certainly have no interest in dealing with two separate accounts to save $1.00 a month or something.

I also don&#039;t see this price increase as paying more for more services.  I will continue to use Netflix in the same way as I always did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the truly poor get Netflix, then skip a McDonald’s meal or a pack of cigarettes or a couple of lottery tickets a month and the increase is covered.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tee hee hee.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t usually complain about these things, but if you&#8217;re someone (like me) who has only set up a Netflix account in the past year, you don&#8217;t think of the current set up as &#8220;one DVD at a time and FREE unlimited streaming&#8221; &#8211; you think of it as $9.99 for the service which has always been in place since you&#8217;ve been a Netflix member &#8211; one DVD at a time, and unlimited streaming.  Not &#8220;free&#8221;.  I didn&#8217;t go from getting a DVD at a time for $9.99 a month to getting that AND unlimited streaming &#8211; the deal I chose was, from the beginning, $9.99 for both services.  I&#8217;m one of those people who don&#8217;t watch many DVDs, hence the one DVD at a time plan &#8211; I really tend to think of it as $9.99 for streaming with the option for an occasional DVD.  Some months, I don&#8217;t get any DVDs at all.  But I do want the OPTION of getting a DVD now and then (and don&#8217;t want to deal with Redbox and finding a time to return a movie on time).  That was why this current plan worked well.  I don&#8217;t really want to pay $7.99 for each service.  It&#8217;s not that $16 / month is that much &#8211; $6.00 extra is nothing.  It&#8217;s that it&#8217;s a 60% price increase all of a sudden and I feel like there is now less flexibility.  And if you&#8217;re a new member, the fact that Netflix hasn&#8217;t raised their prices in ages is meaningless.</p>
<p>My husband is so outraged he wants to have TWO accounts &#8211; one for Netflix for streaming and one for Blockbuster, which apparently plans to undercut the Netflix DVD price by a buck or two.  Now HE is being ridiculous.  I&#8217;ll suck it up and pay the extra amount, it&#8217;s just annoying.  I certainly have no interest in dealing with two separate accounts to save $1.00 a month or something.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t see this price increase as paying more for more services.  I will continue to use Netflix in the same way as I always did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Costello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jaded - I agree entirely about local library autonomy and authenticity and maintaining the ability to service community needs. It&#039;s what makes our existing library system (IMO) one of our national treasures. 

The high value I spoke about in my earlier comment was in &quot;content curation, cultivation and access&quot;. It has nothing to do with servicing only elites and intellectuals but rather in selecting the most high quality content --- be it a mystery, a history, a comic book, whatever. I&#039;d trust someone like Nancy Pearl to make those assessments on my behalf any day rather than some marketing specialist at a large publishing house or entertainment studio.

I can rely on Amazon &amp; RedBox to tell me what content is new or popular. I&#039;d like to be able to rely on my libraries to help me know what&#039;s good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaded &#8211; I agree entirely about local library autonomy and authenticity and maintaining the ability to service community needs. It&#8217;s what makes our existing library system (IMO) one of our national treasures. </p>
<p>The high value I spoke about in my earlier comment was in &#8220;content curation, cultivation and access&#8221;. It has nothing to do with servicing only elites and intellectuals but rather in selecting the most high quality content &#8212; be it a mystery, a history, a comic book, whatever. I&#8217;d trust someone like Nancy Pearl to make those assessments on my behalf any day rather than some marketing specialist at a large publishing house or entertainment studio.</p>
<p>I can rely on Amazon &amp; RedBox to tell me what content is new or popular. I&#8217;d like to be able to rely on my libraries to help me know what&#8217;s good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ueber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ueber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we just target the nonwhining cheapskates?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we just target the nonwhining cheapskates?</p>
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