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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: dfghdfghdfgrt</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/08/22/the-last-perk-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-51377</link>
		<dc:creator>dfghdfghdfgrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the same as you, my point of view. Best wishes! (:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the same as you, my point of view. Best wishes! (:</p>
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		<title>By: Annoyed in Alabama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annoyed in Alabama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You claim the right to change your mind over time -- &quot;God forbid I be held to my opinions forever&quot; -- but don&#039;t bother to note that Alabama -- and all of the US -- has made great changes since the &quot;stand in the schoolhouse door.&quot;  How about a little fair play here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You claim the right to change your mind over time &#8212; &#8220;God forbid I be held to my opinions forever&#8221; &#8212; but don&#8217;t bother to note that Alabama &#8212; and all of the US &#8212; has made great changes since the &#8220;stand in the schoolhouse door.&#8221;  How about a little fair play here?</p>
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		<title>By: Red John of the Battles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red John of the Battles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see the furor on this post has died down now, but I did not have time to comment earlier.  I wish I had, but I had stuff to do.  People like J. Maxwell Miller and Pitschmann have good points, but they and other supporters of the University of Alabama and the state shouldn&#039;t get too bent out of shape.  Few people who didn&#039;t already share the Annoyed Librarian&#039;s ill-conceived and bigoted opinions of Alabama and the U.S. South will actually adopt them just because they read her buffoonish diatribe.  Of course I could remind her and her readers of other things associated with Alabama, like all the USAF personnel trained at Maxwell and Keesler who are currently defending her right to post buffoonish diatribes, or the scientists at Huntsville who developed the rockets that took human beings to the moon.  (Most of them actually finished *their* dissertations, unlike her.)   Now that I think about it, though, more preferable than pointing out those things would to point out that the Annoyed Librarian (given her posts about the lack of attractive, single, straight men in the library profession)is probably just acting out against Alabama because she knows that in a competition for the the few attractive, single, straight men who actually *are* in the library profession, women in UA Libraries and the UA SLIS program would kick her ass.  Given what she herself has said about ass-width among librarians, it probably wouldn&#039;t be hard to miss anyway.  And I guarantee you Alabama babes (including female faculty, staff and students of any college or school of the University of Alabama - even the librarians) are hotter, smarter, and more fun than her.  And she knows it.  So does Chip - Alabama girls don&#039;t have to *pay* him for giving them backrubs and serving martinis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the furor on this post has died down now, but I did not have time to comment earlier.  I wish I had, but I had stuff to do.  People like J. Maxwell Miller and Pitschmann have good points, but they and other supporters of the University of Alabama and the state shouldn&#8217;t get too bent out of shape.  Few people who didn&#8217;t already share the Annoyed Librarian&#8217;s ill-conceived and bigoted opinions of Alabama and the U.S. South will actually adopt them just because they read her buffoonish diatribe.  Of course I could remind her and her readers of other things associated with Alabama, like all the USAF personnel trained at Maxwell and Keesler who are currently defending her right to post buffoonish diatribes, or the scientists at Huntsville who developed the rockets that took human beings to the moon.  (Most of them actually finished *their* dissertations, unlike her.)   Now that I think about it, though, more preferable than pointing out those things would to point out that the Annoyed Librarian (given her posts about the lack of attractive, single, straight men in the library profession)is probably just acting out against Alabama because she knows that in a competition for the the few attractive, single, straight men who actually *are* in the library profession, women in UA Libraries and the UA SLIS program would kick her ass.  Given what she herself has said about ass-width among librarians, it probably wouldn&#8217;t be hard to miss anyway.  And I guarantee you Alabama babes (including female faculty, staff and students of any college or school of the University of Alabama &#8211; even the librarians) are hotter, smarter, and more fun than her.  And she knows it.  So does Chip &#8211; Alabama girls don&#8217;t have to *pay* him for giving them backrubs and serving martinis.</p>
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		<title>By: Libraryless Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libraryless Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 23:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People are allowed to change their position on issues over the years. I actually consider it a sign of maturity and personal and professional growth. Liebrarian just pointed out that AL hasn&#039;t, in fact, changed her position on tenure, but it would be OK if she had. I mean, I thought communism was a good idea when I was in high school - God forbid I be held to my opinions forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are allowed to change their position on issues over the years. I actually consider it a sign of maturity and personal and professional growth. Liebrarian just pointed out that AL hasn&#8217;t, in fact, changed her position on tenure, but it would be OK if she had. I mean, I thought communism was a good idea when I was in high school &#8211; God forbid I be held to my opinions forever.</p>
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		<title>By: The Liebrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Liebrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you read closely you can see that AL hasn&#039;t changed their view of how librarian tenure is perceived by others (non-librarians) in academia. There are two different discussions going on here, one about the mis-perceptions a newly tenured librarian may have and one about job security, pay etc.

2011 - &quot;With faculty status and tenure, at least librarians could pretend that they were important to a university and their job status wasn’t equivalent to the custodians and food workers, even if real faculty knew they weren’t real faculty.&quot;

2006- &quot;As hard as it may be for you to believe, the real faculty will never accept you as real faculty. I don&#039;t accept you as real faculty, and I&#039;m merely a lowly librarian. So you can imagine what the real faculty think of you. Try telling the professors of physics or economics or philosophy that you&#039;re a real professor, just like them!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read closely you can see that AL hasn&#8217;t changed their view of how librarian tenure is perceived by others (non-librarians) in academia. There are two different discussions going on here, one about the mis-perceptions a newly tenured librarian may have and one about job security, pay etc.</p>
<p>2011 &#8211; &#8220;With faculty status and tenure, at least librarians could pretend that they were important to a university and their job status wasn’t equivalent to the custodians and food workers, even if real faculty knew they weren’t real faculty.&#8221;</p>
<p>2006- &#8220;As hard as it may be for you to believe, the real faculty will never accept you as real faculty. I don&#8217;t accept you as real faculty, and I&#8217;m merely a lowly librarian. So you can imagine what the real faculty think of you. Try telling the professors of physics or economics or philosophy that you&#8217;re a real professor, just like them!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tenured Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenured Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sarah, you are confused by what I wrote.  In no way do I think what you do at your institution is less important or critical because you don&#039;t have tenure. Nor do I lack appreciation for that work, or for the work of social workers, for that matter.  

What I do find confusing is when those on the academic library job market would prefer positions without tenure. That seems incredibly self-sacrificing to me.  That&#039;s not maligning those who are willing to accept a job that doesn&#039;t offer that benefit, as about half of academic library positions do not.  I have worked at institutions with and without tenure for librarians, and it does make a very significant difference in terms of librarian stature on campus and job security. 

Our colleagues in other departments would undoubtedly find a tenure track job more desirable so it&#039;s very strange that many of us don&#039;t.  Are we not good enough or deserving enough to strive for that benefit in our profession.  Perhaps it&#039;s just another example of the low self esteem of many in our field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, you are confused by what I wrote.  In no way do I think what you do at your institution is less important or critical because you don&#8217;t have tenure. Nor do I lack appreciation for that work, or for the work of social workers, for that matter.  </p>
<p>What I do find confusing is when those on the academic library job market would prefer positions without tenure. That seems incredibly self-sacrificing to me.  That&#8217;s not maligning those who are willing to accept a job that doesn&#8217;t offer that benefit, as about half of academic library positions do not.  I have worked at institutions with and without tenure for librarians, and it does make a very significant difference in terms of librarian stature on campus and job security. </p>
<p>Our colleagues in other departments would undoubtedly find a tenure track job more desirable so it&#8217;s very strange that many of us don&#8217;t.  Are we not good enough or deserving enough to strive for that benefit in our profession.  Perhaps it&#8217;s just another example of the low self esteem of many in our field.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tenure is fine for some people, but don&#039;t assume that because I don&#039;t require that in a job that I am a &quot;self-sacrificing social worker.&quot;  I work in a tiny (as in one room) academic library and find ways every day to make radical changes in the lives of students and how this library operates without the &quot;benefit&quot; of tenure.  

You or AL may not appreciate what I am able to do daily without tenure (for some reason you think you can&#039;t do it), but I know that I am more than a social worker and so do my superiors.  That is enough for me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenure is fine for some people, but don&#8217;t assume that because I don&#8217;t require that in a job that I am a &#8220;self-sacrificing social worker.&#8221;  I work in a tiny (as in one room) academic library and find ways every day to make radical changes in the lives of students and how this library operates without the &#8220;benefit&#8221; of tenure.  </p>
<p>You or AL may not appreciate what I am able to do daily without tenure (for some reason you think you can&#8217;t do it), but I know that I am more than a social worker and so do my superiors.  That is enough for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find this post interesting considering your post just a few years ago treating tenure as something to be ridiculed.

http://annoyedlibrarian.blogspot.com/2006/08/dear-annoyed-librarian-10-faculty.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this post interesting considering your post just a few years ago treating tenure as something to be ridiculed.</p>
<p><a href="http://annoyedlibrarian.blogspot.com/2006/08/dear-annoyed-librarian-10-faculty.html" rel="nofollow">http://annoyedlibrarian.blogspot.com/2006/08/dear-annoyed-librarian-10-faculty.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: J. Maxwell Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Maxwell Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding:

&quot;There’s the Stand in the Schoolhouse Door, for example. And Forrest Gump went there. Oh, and “Parts of the Burt Reynolds film Hooper was filmed on lots owned by the University of Alabama.” Burt Reynolds used to be a famous centerfold model and all, so that’s exciting stuff.

When you add in the sweltering heat (at the time of writing about 97 degrees Fahrenheit and 80% humidity) and the devastating tornadoes, what more could any librarian want? I’m surprised librarians aren’t flocking to Tuscaloosa the way they do to New York, Seattle, and Detroit.&quot;



How dare you insult my school and state.  If you want replies that address the main points of your original post, as you accuse Dr. Pitschmann of not doing, then you should not have gone on such a callous, despicable, and obviously loaded diatribe that adds absolutely no substance to your argument about tenure, in the first place

You obviously know nothing of Alabama and the University of Alabama and, as such, should keep your mouth shut on these subjects and keep your snide insults to yourself.  Bringing up fictional characters or 50 year old history clearly proves your ignorance.

Worst of all, though, is that anyone who would speak of a devastating weather event that killed 40 people and literally destroyed the lives of thousands more in such a disgustingly tongue-in-cheek fashion, &quot;what more could any librarian want,&quot; is utterly repulsive.

Libraries are destroyed every year all over the world by natural disasters.  Great librarians go to places like Haiti and Japan simply to rebuild libraries.  They do not need tenure and usually do not even receive compensation.  On the other hand, if a librarian would turn away from the University of Alabama because the area was just ravaged by such a horrible natural disaster, then I, wholeheartedly, would say they are not the type of person I would ever want to be employed by my Alma Mater anyway.

J. Maxwell Miller
SLIS Class of 1997]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding:</p>
<p>&#8220;There’s the Stand in the Schoolhouse Door, for example. And Forrest Gump went there. Oh, and “Parts of the Burt Reynolds film Hooper was filmed on lots owned by the University of Alabama.” Burt Reynolds used to be a famous centerfold model and all, so that’s exciting stuff.</p>
<p>When you add in the sweltering heat (at the time of writing about 97 degrees Fahrenheit and 80% humidity) and the devastating tornadoes, what more could any librarian want? I’m surprised librarians aren’t flocking to Tuscaloosa the way they do to New York, Seattle, and Detroit.&#8221;</p>
<p>How dare you insult my school and state.  If you want replies that address the main points of your original post, as you accuse Dr. Pitschmann of not doing, then you should not have gone on such a callous, despicable, and obviously loaded diatribe that adds absolutely no substance to your argument about tenure, in the first place</p>
<p>You obviously know nothing of Alabama and the University of Alabama and, as such, should keep your mouth shut on these subjects and keep your snide insults to yourself.  Bringing up fictional characters or 50 year old history clearly proves your ignorance.</p>
<p>Worst of all, though, is that anyone who would speak of a devastating weather event that killed 40 people and literally destroyed the lives of thousands more in such a disgustingly tongue-in-cheek fashion, &#8220;what more could any librarian want,&#8221; is utterly repulsive.</p>
<p>Libraries are destroyed every year all over the world by natural disasters.  Great librarians go to places like Haiti and Japan simply to rebuild libraries.  They do not need tenure and usually do not even receive compensation.  On the other hand, if a librarian would turn away from the University of Alabama because the area was just ravaged by such a horrible natural disaster, then I, wholeheartedly, would say they are not the type of person I would ever want to be employed by my Alma Mater anyway.</p>
<p>J. Maxwell Miller<br />
SLIS Class of 1997</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 00:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t think the State or University of Alabama was insulted all that terribly. Much ado about nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think the State or University of Alabama was insulted all that terribly. Much ado about nothing.</p>
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