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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Jean Costello</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-63415</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great stuff there, Spencer.  I&#039;ll put your blog on my radar!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff there, Spencer.  I&#8217;ll put your blog on my radar!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Costello</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-63412</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Anna - another long reply; hope it&#039;s helpful.  The Patron Profiles site exudes some of the same characteristics I described in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-62296&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reply to Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

1) It is inward looking, which is very limiting and leads to false conclusions. Libraries are already very familiar with what their patrons want, and they do a good job of delivering. People wouldn&#039;t remain patrons if this was untrue. Patrons use libraries because they value existing services, so relying on them as &#039;trend&#039; indicators is like driving with your rearview mirror as a guide.

2) Consolidating national data will result in information that probably won&#039;t serve individual libraries very well. Libraries make this mistake all the time; they rely on gross data when much more refinement is needed to provide meaningful insights. For example, the site says it will provide &quot;emerging attitudes and trends in the young adult crossover market&quot;. There is no such market; it&#039;s a whole bunch of niche markets with key similarities and key differences. Notwithstanding the fact that YA patrons are a small segment of the YA population, how closely would a profile of YAs in my community match the one in yours? In central MA, we are:
- suburban communities
- working/lower-middle class
- technologically connected; virtually everyone has home computer &amp; internet connection, plenty of tech gadgets; free wi-fi in most public and retail establishments
- probably not diverse in terms of race/ethnicity (don&#039;t have stats, this is a personal observation)
- jobless rates among the lowest in the country
- literacy rates among the highest in the country
- education levels among the highest in the country
- low crime rates
- lower immigrant populations than in other parts of the country
- electorate votes Democratic

To chart a meaninful course forward, the library community needs to craft complex user personas to match the complexity of the communities it serves. And it doesn&#039;t need to &quot;roll its own&quot; data and all the analyses. Skads of non-profit and for-profit entities produce high-quality metrics on this stuff and they&#039;re freely available or could be purchased/negotiated for reasonable price. Part of my initial disappointment when I first began studying the library community was how little it relies on diverse, authoritative sources for its own management, operations &amp; planning. Kinda like the plumber&#039;s sink always being clogged, I guess.

3) The site is created by a for-profit entity (MediaSource, publisher of LJ) as a sponsorship service for its advertisers. This is an important consideration in your assessment.

4) And lastly, I&#039;d offer my personal observation that with digital initiatives, the library ecosystem is comprised of great starters. If you view the initiatives 6mos after launch, the results are not-so-great. These are but a few examples: &lt;a href=&quot;http://geekthelibrary.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GeekTheLibrary&lt;/a&gt; that launched with some fanfare in mid-2009 and effectively hasn&#039;t updated content/campaign since. PrivacyRevolution is a slightly different story. It went from a good idea at launch to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radicalpatron.com/awful-library-websites/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an awful implementation&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna &#8211; another long reply; hope it&#8217;s helpful.  The Patron Profiles site exudes some of the same characteristics I described in my <a href="http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-62296" rel="nofollow">reply to Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>1) It is inward looking, which is very limiting and leads to false conclusions. Libraries are already very familiar with what their patrons want, and they do a good job of delivering. People wouldn&#8217;t remain patrons if this was untrue. Patrons use libraries because they value existing services, so relying on them as &#8216;trend&#8217; indicators is like driving with your rearview mirror as a guide.</p>
<p>2) Consolidating national data will result in information that probably won&#8217;t serve individual libraries very well. Libraries make this mistake all the time; they rely on gross data when much more refinement is needed to provide meaningful insights. For example, the site says it will provide &#8220;emerging attitudes and trends in the young adult crossover market&#8221;. There is no such market; it&#8217;s a whole bunch of niche markets with key similarities and key differences. Notwithstanding the fact that YA patrons are a small segment of the YA population, how closely would a profile of YAs in my community match the one in yours? In central MA, we are:<br />
- suburban communities<br />
- working/lower-middle class<br />
- technologically connected; virtually everyone has home computer &amp; internet connection, plenty of tech gadgets; free wi-fi in most public and retail establishments<br />
- probably not diverse in terms of race/ethnicity (don&#8217;t have stats, this is a personal observation)<br />
- jobless rates among the lowest in the country<br />
- literacy rates among the highest in the country<br />
- education levels among the highest in the country<br />
- low crime rates<br />
- lower immigrant populations than in other parts of the country<br />
- electorate votes Democratic</p>
<p>To chart a meaninful course forward, the library community needs to craft complex user personas to match the complexity of the communities it serves. And it doesn&#8217;t need to &#8220;roll its own&#8221; data and all the analyses. Skads of non-profit and for-profit entities produce high-quality metrics on this stuff and they&#8217;re freely available or could be purchased/negotiated for reasonable price. Part of my initial disappointment when I first began studying the library community was how little it relies on diverse, authoritative sources for its own management, operations &amp; planning. Kinda like the plumber&#8217;s sink always being clogged, I guess.</p>
<p>3) The site is created by a for-profit entity (MediaSource, publisher of LJ) as a sponsorship service for its advertisers. This is an important consideration in your assessment.</p>
<p>4) And lastly, I&#8217;d offer my personal observation that with digital initiatives, the library ecosystem is comprised of great starters. If you view the initiatives 6mos after launch, the results are not-so-great. These are but a few examples: <a href="http://geekthelibrary.org/" rel="nofollow">GeekTheLibrary</a> that launched with some fanfare in mid-2009 and effectively hasn&#8217;t updated content/campaign since. PrivacyRevolution is a slightly different story. It went from a good idea at launch to <a href="http://www.radicalpatron.com/awful-library-websites/" rel="nofollow">an awful implementation</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: I Like Books</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-63189</link>
		<dc:creator>I Like Books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are librarians good with numbers? Well, just look at the math and statistics requirements for getting the degree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are librarians good with numbers? Well, just look at the math and statistics requirements for getting the degree.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-63098</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would also like to note that the online users who took the poll on the website claimed that 26% used the library once a week and 21% once a month which equates to 47% (with 70% visiting at least once a year), maybe they just surveyed the wrong people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to note that the online users who took the poll on the website claimed that 26% used the library once a week and 21% once a month which equates to 47% (with 70% visiting at least once a year), maybe they just surveyed the wrong people.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-63097</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My favorite part is that 30% of people who try to consciously buy locally grown food is considered &quot;favoring&quot; while 33% of people using the library more than a couple of times per year is considered &quot;waning&quot; (from what I&#039;m not sure).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part is that 30% of people who try to consciously buy locally grown food is considered &#8220;favoring&#8221; while 33% of people using the library more than a couple of times per year is considered &#8220;waning&#8221; (from what I&#8217;m not sure).</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-62709</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t methinks one word?  yes it is. I would also like to think that readers of professional blogs and lit might be the c o t c that the other library lied to you about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t methinks one word?  yes it is. I would also like to think that readers of professional blogs and lit might be the c o t c that the other library lied to you about.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-62705</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Computer fail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer fail.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-62701</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well,

I tried to point to my interpretation of this, but it has either been booted as spam or my work computer is messing up.  Either way, here&#039;s the deal:

15 percent of cardholders equals approx 20% of USERS that drive your real circ and stats. So, in San Antonio, that’s 158,949 people that are “heavy users”. That’s 10.5% of the total population uses the library on (at least) a bi-weekly basis. These people- even assuming that they only check out 1 item each every 25 times a year- account for 3,973,725 circs/year. That’s 62% of the library’s total circulation (6,374,109 in the year of these numbers)! Also, from the same source, that means they account for 93% of library visits (4,267,488 total)!!!! This is from a minority of cardholders/users and 11% of the population!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,</p>
<p>I tried to point to my interpretation of this, but it has either been booted as spam or my work computer is messing up.  Either way, here&#8217;s the deal:</p>
<p>15 percent of cardholders equals approx 20% of USERS that drive your real circ and stats. So, in San Antonio, that’s 158,949 people that are “heavy users”. That’s 10.5% of the total population uses the library on (at least) a bi-weekly basis. These people- even assuming that they only check out 1 item each every 25 times a year- account for 3,973,725 circs/year. That’s 62% of the library’s total circulation (6,374,109 in the year of these numbers)! Also, from the same source, that means they account for 93% of library visits (4,267,488 total)!!!! This is from a minority of cardholders/users and 11% of the population!</p>
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		<title>By: Soren Faust</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-62700</link>
		<dc:creator>Soren Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Joyce&#039;s daughter isn&#039;t the only one who needs a job. Joyce. Have you thought about employment for yourself? I mean, it must get tiresome following a professional blog about a profession you&#039;re not even a part of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Joyce&#8217;s daughter isn&#8217;t the only one who needs a job. Joyce. Have you thought about employment for yourself? I mean, it must get tiresome following a professional blog about a profession you&#8217;re not even a part of.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2011/11/30/fun-with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-62696</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, and the library comes and saves you in infotainment emergencies even if you don&#039;t ask them to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, and the library comes and saves you in infotainment emergencies even if you don&#8217;t ask them to.</p>
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