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	<title>Comments on: Financial Benefits of Lots of Library School Students</title>
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	<description>Whatever It Is, I&#039;m Against It</description>
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		<title>By: Librarienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Librarienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would posit that a membership in a state or local library association might be worth it for someone who is employed, depending on your job.  I am a solo librarian. I go months at a time without interacting with anyone who really gets why what I do at this school is important.  Conferences are a real help to me, because sometimes &quot;networking&quot; means finding others like you to help boost you back up.  And networking at your local association (my city has one) really can help to make you memorable when your resume comes across the desk of the person hiring.  &quot;Oh, that&#039;s the woman from that career school I had lunch with!  I remember her!&quot;  I think that association membership is like politics: it&#039;s the local stuff that actually impacts your daily life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would posit that a membership in a state or local library association might be worth it for someone who is employed, depending on your job.  I am a solo librarian. I go months at a time without interacting with anyone who really gets why what I do at this school is important.  Conferences are a real help to me, because sometimes &#8220;networking&#8221; means finding others like you to help boost you back up.  And networking at your local association (my city has one) really can help to make you memorable when your resume comes across the desk of the person hiring.  &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s the woman from that career school I had lunch with!  I remember her!&#8221;  I think that association membership is like politics: it&#8217;s the local stuff that actually impacts your daily life.</p>
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		<title>By: Not a NJ Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not a NJ Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The library school at Rutgers really pushed joining the ALA and NJLA for the “networking opportunities.”  

I make a point to ask every librarian I meet if they belong to an association and if they feel the association helped with their career advancement.  I have only met one librarian who enthusiastically supported them and she was a former officer in NJLA.  Countless others have been ambivalent, apathetic or openly angry.  The most common feedback I’ve received is “save your money.”

I feel the associations appeal to optimism of job seekers because many of us are desperate for work.  They are like buying lottery tickets without the chance of big payday.  

Hopeful Inner Voice: I spent over $20,000 on the degree, so what’s another $60 to the NJLA if I can put that on my resume?  I know having that prestigious organization next to my name will certainly be the deciding factor for landing a job.

I contacted the ALA and NJLA to see if they could tell me why I should join if I don’t currently work in a library.  I got a lot of responses with exclamation points and syrupy zeal “Our members are the best part!”, but not a lot substance.  So far I’ve decided to save my money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The library school at Rutgers really pushed joining the ALA and NJLA for the “networking opportunities.”  </p>
<p>I make a point to ask every librarian I meet if they belong to an association and if they feel the association helped with their career advancement.  I have only met one librarian who enthusiastically supported them and she was a former officer in NJLA.  Countless others have been ambivalent, apathetic or openly angry.  The most common feedback I’ve received is “save your money.”</p>
<p>I feel the associations appeal to optimism of job seekers because many of us are desperate for work.  They are like buying lottery tickets without the chance of big payday.  </p>
<p>Hopeful Inner Voice: I spent over $20,000 on the degree, so what’s another $60 to the NJLA if I can put that on my resume?  I know having that prestigious organization next to my name will certainly be the deciding factor for landing a job.</p>
<p>I contacted the ALA and NJLA to see if they could tell me why I should join if I don’t currently work in a library.  I got a lot of responses with exclamation points and syrupy zeal “Our members are the best part!”, but not a lot substance.  So far I’ve decided to save my money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. I went to one Midwinter conference and now that my employer won&#039;t cover far-off conferences, I&#039;m joining my state association instead of renewing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I went to one Midwinter conference and now that my employer won&#8217;t cover far-off conferences, I&#8217;m joining my state association instead of renewing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was never an ALA member while I was underemployed -- the dues were too expensive and their conferences were too far away.  Now that I have a full time job, my employer (an academic library) pays the dues for me. 

Although they benefit from unemployed librarians who join in the hopes of getting a job, I can&#039;t help thinking the ALA would benefit more from fewer unemployed librarians.  It&#039;s supply and demand -- the rarer a skill is, the higher salary an employer has to pay to attract skilled applicants.  Bennies like paid memberships, conference reimbursement, etc. are more likely to be given in a tight job market.  When people with a given skill set (be it library science or brain surgery) are more plentiful than the jobs available for them, employers can offer less in salaries, perks, and bennies.  Producing too many graduates is a short-sighted strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was never an ALA member while I was underemployed &#8212; the dues were too expensive and their conferences were too far away.  Now that I have a full time job, my employer (an academic library) pays the dues for me. </p>
<p>Although they benefit from unemployed librarians who join in the hopes of getting a job, I can&#8217;t help thinking the ALA would benefit more from fewer unemployed librarians.  It&#8217;s supply and demand &#8212; the rarer a skill is, the higher salary an employer has to pay to attract skilled applicants.  Bennies like paid memberships, conference reimbursement, etc. are more likely to be given in a tight job market.  When people with a given skill set (be it library science or brain surgery) are more plentiful than the jobs available for them, employers can offer less in salaries, perks, and bennies.  Producing too many graduates is a short-sighted strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In that case we&#039;re pretty much in agreement!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that case we&#8217;re pretty much in agreement!</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry I should have qualified lucrative as quick, gainful employment. I didn&#039;t necessarily mean a high salary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry I should have qualified lucrative as quick, gainful employment. I didn&#8217;t necessarily mean a high salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that anyone thinks the field is lucrative per se. I went into it with both eyes open knowing that I wasn&#039;t going to get rich. The real problem is the repeated promises of steady employment and lots of job openings that turn into so many farts in the wind for a lot of freshly minted MLSes upon graduation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that anyone thinks the field is lucrative per se. I went into it with both eyes open knowing that I wasn&#8217;t going to get rich. The real problem is the repeated promises of steady employment and lots of job openings that turn into so many farts in the wind for a lot of freshly minted MLSes upon graduation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AL...important point you forgot, in today&#039;s world numbers = clout!! The more members that ALA can claim to have (working or not) the better it looks when walking into a meeting in Washington spewing....&quot;we represent x number of information professionals...Blah Blah blah&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AL&#8230;important point you forgot, in today&#8217;s world numbers = clout!! The more members that ALA can claim to have (working or not) the better it looks when walking into a meeting in Washington spewing&#8230;.&#8221;we represent x number of information professionals&#8230;Blah Blah blah&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: the.effing.librarian</title>
		<link>http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs/annoyedlibrarian/2012/07/30/financial-benefits-of-lots-of-library-school-students/comment-page-1/#comment-158276</link>
		<dc:creator>the.effing.librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the psychology is better for ALA with more unemployed librarians: I joined ALA as a student, but didn&#039;t renew when I became employed, for two reasons: 1, it became more expensive, 2, I had a job.  I think the professional association membership is what an unemployed librarian uses to balance against the lack of professional job, as in, &quot;but I keep up by being a member of ALA.&quot;  so the unemployed stay members hoping it will help..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the psychology is better for ALA with more unemployed librarians: I joined ALA as a student, but didn&#8217;t renew when I became employed, for two reasons: 1, it became more expensive, 2, I had a job.  I think the professional association membership is what an unemployed librarian uses to balance against the lack of professional job, as in, &#8220;but I keep up by being a member of ALA.&#8221;  so the unemployed stay members hoping it will help..</p>
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		<title>By: Development Arrested</title>
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		<dc:creator>Development Arrested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They can tell by her annoyed demeanor obviously.  Which means every school librarian I met growing up was the Annoyed Librarian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can tell by her annoyed demeanor obviously.  Which means every school librarian I met growing up was the Annoyed Librarian.</p>
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